it's not intimidation?  apparently you don't pass by the same planned parenthoods i pass by. 

 thank goodness the city council is doing something to help reduce the amount of babies being had by mothers who aren't ready for them.  

Here's a newsflash Bill, the amount of babies isn't being 'reduced' - the babies are being killed.

Planned Parenthood routinely lies, cheats and intimidates young women into killing their children. Idiotic sentiments like yours show how thoroughly dumbed down our society has become.

Abortion is a business - the business of murder. We are paying for it. Our tax dollars are being used to restrict freedom of speech, freedom of religion and destroy human life. Maybe that's your idea of a good time Bill, but it's actually the beginning of the end of our society.

Perhaps instead of sucking up the Choice rhetoric, you should read some history. Our culture is on the brink of self-destruction - and people like you are hurrying things along.

Let’s not confuse freedom of speech with blanket permission to harass, stalk, intimidate and verbally abuse.

The Clinic Access Bill is an important piece of legislation that would not only protect health care centers’ right to operate, but ensure the physical and emotional safety of all those who walk through their doors. The leading providers of reproductive health care in New York City see the daily impact of anti-abortion extremists blocking their clients and staff’s path. The majority of women who seek care at a Planned Parenthood are there for comprehensive GYN visits, birth control counseling, STI testing and treatment, etc. And the balance are excercising their contitutional right to access abortion care without fear for their safety

So while I will always agree that freedom of speech is one of the most important rights that we as Americans have, I balk at the idea that terrorizing innocent Americans is an equally protected right. Kudos to the City Council for standing up for our rights to live free of intimidation.

Ms. Noonan,

It's pathetic and hypocritical to profess to care about unplanned pregnancies among Black and Hispanic females but completely ignore the significant social disorders that contribute to them, such as poverty, educational and employment inequality, dysfunctional families and a lack of quality health care. It's ridiculous to argue that Blacks are being wiped out due to abortion. 

Moreover, (mostly white) females from more well-off families and/or communities have a greater range of options for dealing with unplanned pregnancies, such as birth control and emergency contraceptive pills. 

While it may be true that some females may be aided by organizations like God's Precious Helpers, the reality is that, more often than not, such volunteers create an unwanted physical and emotional intrusion into a deeply personal and difficult decision. Therefore, a buffer zone is practical, equitable and wise public policy.

"Cynical Negro"

You've obviously never met Ms. Noonan and you are completely ignorant of the abortion industry's long held agenda of targeting minorities.

Planned Parenthood was founded by the eugenicist Margaret Sanger whose own writings indicate that she believed blacks were inferior to whites and that they needed to be prevented from 'breeding'. Is that what you support?

Why not visit blackgenocide.org and actually inform yourself on this issue? Unless of course, like those that support the suppression of free speech, what you are really afraid of, is the truth.

Fear of the truth is behind the attempt to pass this bill. Planned Parenthood knows that sidewalk counselors have been very effective in helping women understand that they have options - and they do not need to kill their own children - and that's bad for business. This bill is not about protecting women - it is about victimizing them even further - and your support begs the question of whether you are complicit or simply naive.

Of course, it's very easy to rest on the old standby lines about how anyone trying to stop a child from being killed is some crazy pro-lifer out to intimidate a poor pregnant woman. But that's really nothing but empty Planned Parenthood rhetoric. I'm sure that the PP employees that monitor boards like these are poised and ready to tell you otherwise - but then, they're known for lying. And that's the reason why good people brave all sorts of weather and insults and much more to make sure that women hear the truth before it's too late. Too late for their children to be saved and too late for them to avoid the agonizing aftermath of abortion.

This bill doesn't just seek to prevent people from talking to women that are being used by PP, it prevents those women from walking over and finding out the truth.

Welcome to the New America. It's looking more and more like Nazi Germany - but then, Margaret Sanger was a big fan of Adolf Hitler. Her only offspring - Planned Parenthood - is doing her proud.

"Doreen Ball" wrote: Planned Parenthood was founded by the eugenicist Margaret Sanger whose own writings indicate that she believed blacks were inferior to whites and that they needed to be prevented from 'breeding'. Is that what you support?"

No, I support the notion that females entering abortion clinics should be free of aggressive, hyperventilating, pro-life advocates. While I applaud the idea of providing information on alternatives to abortion, I disagree with some of the methods. Let's be truthful: some of these 'sidewalk volunteers' engage in behavior that is intrusive and in some cases, constitutes harassment.

By the way, the U.S. Constitution, one of the documents upon which this nation was founded, contained the well-known three-fifths clause. Does this mean I should eschew all socializing institutions developed since then?

I may, however, take your advice and visit blackgenocide.org.

"Alice L." wrote: "Cynical Negro" if abortion is such a personal decision, why don't you want women to have the facts so that they can freely decide?  Why don't you want them to see the sonograms?  Or are you afraid that a black woman may actually change her mind and have the baby? 

Nonsense. As I stated, females considering abortion should have information on all of their options. There is, however, a right way and a wrong way to accomplish this. If the law prohibits electioneering within 100 feet of a poll site, then the same can and should be done in this much more serious and personal context.

"Alice L." wrote: Your mother had you, by the way!Your mother had you, by the way!

Uh...yes, she did. However, if she had decided to have an abortion, she should have been able to do so free of pressure that may have come in the form of a sidewalk volunteer.

ALL Planned Parenthood health centers hold detailed options counseling sessions - something that no so-called crisis pregnancy center ever attempts to do.

As a result of these options counseling sessions, Planned Parenthood refers out scores of young women to both adoption agencies and to prenatal programs every month.

Why is it that the anti-abortion zealots who want to deprive women of their inherent right to make decisions about when and whether to have a baby are so misinformed, and so likely to spread mis and disinformation? And why are they so desperate to force their beliefs on others?

Women have abortions for many different reasons.  While some people may disagree with some of those reasons, it is important that each woman be able to make the decision that is right for her, her circumstances and her family

Roger writes,

"ALL Planned Parenthood health centers hold detailed options counseling sessions".

Untrue. (So, Roger has already outed himself as a PP troll.) 

"As a result of these options counseling sessions, Planned Parenthood refers out scores of young women to both adoption agencies and to prenatal programs every month."

Untrue. This statement would be laughable if the truth weren't so tragic.

"Why is it that the anti-abortion zealots who want to deprive women of their inherent right to make decisions about when and whether to have a baby..."

Again, Roger has given himslef away as a PP drone. Zealots is a term better used to described a group of people that want to rationalize killing children. When you get right down to it, it's just sick.

People don't decide whether or not to have a baby after they're pregnant. That ship sailed. The only decision they're making is whether or not they're going to be the mother of a dead baby.

It's the Roger's of the world that women need to be protected from.

I don't know where some of you get your information from - unless you routinely hang out in front of abortion mills (like Roger) then you are being fed misinformation. If Planned Parenthood actually...

...spoke about options

...showed women ultrasounds of their children

...offered medical care that was women centered and not profit oriented

then there would be no need for sidewalk counselors.

"While I applaud the idea of providing information on alternatives to abortion, I disagree with some of the methods. Let's be truthful: some of these 'sidewalk volunteers' engage in behavior that is intrusive and in some cases, constitutes harassment."

Yes, let's be truthful. The reality is that anyone who wants to should go in front of any of NY's abortion clinics and watch for themselves how God's Precious Helpers assist women who are in unplanned pregnancy situations and feel they have no other alternatives.

Officer Steven McDonald testified at today's City Council hearings and encouraged all of the Council Members to go and see for themselves. It will be intersting to see if any do ...

Again, the tactics of God's Precious Helpers who cousel women outside of abortion clinics are not intimidating. They are trained volunteers. They are loving. They are caring. They help women.

Why is that such a bad thing?

A & A - you're agruments are so tired and so 80's!

Yawn...

Many thanks to Roger for illustrating the level of intelligence it takes to support Planned Parenthood's agenda. Namely, none at all.

And many thanks to Ann Noonan for her post. The outrageous claims made against these sidewalk counselors are completely unsubstantiated and those making them need to be held accountable for THEIR lies and THEIR attempts to intimidate. The average citizen may be willing to be manipulated by the abortion industry, but thankfully those who truly respect life are far from average

"Clinic Access" proves to be only one of many assaults on the constitutional rights of Americans now that Planned Parenthood feels they have bought and paid for control of our country. Their lies, their atrocities and their illegal practices need to be constantly brought to light. As does the amount of money being allocated to them in state and federal budgets.

The only access that needs to be restricted is that of profit crazed butchers from misinformed pregnant women and their defenseless unborn children.

If all so-called "sidewalk counselors" were "loving" and "caring" (and many are in fact) then there would have never been a need for the NY State Attorney General to have brought suit under the Federal Freedom of Access to Clinic Entrances Act (FACE) against two domestic terrorists in NYC.

If all sidewalk counselors were loving and caring a State Court would not have found that John Cain and Luis Menchaca had repeatedly interfered with, harassed and intimidated patients and staff at the Margaret Sanger Clinic in Manhattan in violation of both the federal Freedom of Access to Clinic Entrances Act and the New York State Clinic Access Act.

If all sidewalk counselors were loving and caring the State Court would not have found that these 2 "sidewalk" counselors constantly

  - Harassed patients as they approached the clinic;
  - Blocked patients from entering the clinic;
  -Screamed at and cursed clinic patients and staff;
  -Pushed and shoved staff; and
  -Made various verbal threats, including the claim that the clinic might be bombed.
  -Harassed patients as they approach the clinic;
  - Blocked patients from entering the clinic;
  -Screamed at and cursed clinic patients and staff;
  -Pushed and shoved staff; and
  -Made various verbal threats, including the claim that the clinic might be bombed.

So please stop asserting that everyone in your "movement" is a saint. It just ain't true.

And I promise not even to mention the bombings, bomb threats and killings and wounding of health care workers and clients.

If you were serious about limiting your protests to peaceful counseling then you wouldn't be so fearful of this bill.

This bill would do nothing to limit your rights as protesters. Anyone who wishes to protest, and does not try to harass those who enter a health-care facility or willfully interfere with the operation of a reproductive health-care facility, should have no fear of arrest under our bill. The bill provides critical protections to women and the clinics providing reproductive health care. It will appropriately allow clinic staff to have protesters arrested who deliberately interfere with clinic operations. And it will allow police to arrest protesters who block clinic entrances as well as parking lots and driveways.

Nothing at all will be done to loving and caring sidewalk counselors.

After all it's it's your 1st Amendment right.

If this bill passes, clinic owners like Roger can lie to the police that any sidewalk counsellor has harrassed or harmed anyone entering the clinic without providing proof, and that lie will mandate the police to arrest the counsellor and clog the court system with false charge claims at the sidewalk counsellors' expense.

The police are already doing their job outside abortion clinics, and if there are any crimes taking place, they are there to make arrests and maintain order.

Funny that no police officers testified at yesterday's hearings because of lawlessness outside of abortion clinics.  None of the clinic owners complained about the police - why was that? 

Roger's comment: "you're agruments are so tired and so 80's!" and the accompanying photo underscore the irrationality of the the pro-abortion side of this debate. I don't find "agruments" like that very persuasive.

It's time we all faced the harsh realities of abortion on demand. The estimated toll of abortion on the black community is already approaching 19 million lives, or more than 6 times the African-American population of New York State. Yet we find "heroic" civil servants lining up to "protect" this ongoing slaughter from the predations of a gentle priest whose care for women and the souls of their unborn children is legendary. Oh, how badly society needs protection from those who would walk in the footsteps of Mother Teresa.

Let's be perfectly honest about it. Abortion is just a new and more efficient form of lynching, which disappeared around the time of Roe v. Wade. Now instead of mobs hanging blacks from trees, we have mothers lining up to get rid of their babies before they become some kind of imagined threat to society. Who needs lynching when we can turn killing centers into profit centers, and the mothers of the victims into paying customers?

Besides, never before has killing become so neat and so professional. Lynching was so messy. And so were Hitler's ovens. (Try getting within 15 feet of one of those events.) Yes, Adolf deserves credit for introducing the assembly-line, but his methods were still so crude and upsetting. Now we have the art down to near perfection -- do it one at a time (unless you have twins). And it's so clean and private. Only your abortionist has to know, and he's not going to tell anybody (particularly if you pay cash).

If something goes wrong, that's your problem, honey. Loused up reproductive system? Years and years of depression? Higher suicide and breast cancer rates? What's a council member going to do about that? Nothing. He or she just wants to be sure no one has a chance to give you the other side of the story before they scrape out that unwanted little fetus. Tough luck for him! You might actually have liked the chance to change your mind at the last minute!

That guy Msgr. Reilly is just too persuasive. Some days he persuades half of all the women who come to abort their babies to love and nurture them instead. We've must put a stop to that. Even if it means scrapping the first amendment and turning "choice" into a meaningless concept. In this town, "choice" ends the minute you enter that buffer zone.

Besides, look at all the money we are saving by not having to nurture and educate all those children! If those 19 million black babies had lived, Barack Obama might have won in a 12 million vote landslide instead of by a measly 3 million or so. Oh, I know he didn't need them and they were dead anyway. But one day 20 years from now, there may be another black candidate for president who will need them, and because of bills like this, they won't be there.

And you're right. We will save the cost of rearing and educating all those extra kids. But, unfortunately, that also means we will face a long term demographic decline -- just like the ones Russia, Japan, and Europe are facing. Already, the estimated loss in GDP from the abortions we've already had amount to $35 to $70 Trillion dollars by the most conservative estimates. That's big enough to have some bearing on our present financial crisis.

That GDP loss is expected to climb to $360 Trillion by 2050. And it's happening while the crises in Social Security and Medicare are already getting out of hand.

If I were a rational man, I would consider that a far more serious threat to both New York and to the whole Republic than the risk of unleashing the ministrations of a gentle man of God against the monolith of Planned Parenthood.

But what do I know? He doesn't hand out campaign contributions. They do, along with all their powerful, moneyed supporters from George Soros on down.

So let's be realistic. Unless Msgr. Reilly can soften a lot of hardened hearts among our elected officials, or we the people suddenly come to our senses, Roger's "agruments" may well carry the day. Too bad for us.

Why is "Roger" be so opposed to women being offered another choice - as provide by sidewalk counsellors - and being offered the love and support to make that choice about their babies?

Has Roger ever met any of the many many women who are happy that they chose life for their babies at the last minutee - or does that thought make him cringe?

And after seeing his picture as he posted above (poor dear) and after reading his rantings, I can guess that he also supports sex-selected abortion, China's one-child policy, eugenics, and infanticide.

I also wonder if he is being less than honest about owning an abortion clinic ...

... the entire Planned Parenthood PR guide.

You see Roger, a woman that walks into an abortion mill is not in consultation with her partner, her clergy-person, her family and her God - and she has certainly not discussed her situation with HER doctor - you know the person that would be concerned with her physical and emotional health.

Roger, you are either someone that profits directly from abortion - or - perhaps the most gullible idiot in New York.

Human Life International has documented more than 8,519 acts of violence and illegal activities by pro-abortionists. These crimes include:

• 1,251 homicides and other killings
• 157 attempted homicides
• 28 arsons and firebombings
• 904 assaults
• 1,908 sex crimes (including 250 rapes)
• 106 kidnappings
• 420 cases of vandalism
• 290 drug crimes
• 1,616 medical crimes
• http://prochoiceviolence.com/

Ive seen this violence towards prolifers myself, throwing balloons filled with bleach and also throwing razors.

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