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"This was a military-style ambush from start to finish . . .a coup d'etat with David Paterson waiting in the wings, and perhaps Joe Bruno queuing up behind him." District Attorney James “Gatemouth” Garrison I am normally one to dismiss each and every conspiracy theory out of hand. Did Dubya steal the election from Kerry? No, Bush tried to steal it, but somehow managed to win it instead (no, not fair and square, but when is it ever thus?). For the demise of Eliot “Ness” Spitzer (is the Costner connection a coincidence? —I think not) to be the coup de grace of a coup d’etat would require the participation of a ruthless blackbag man skilled at covert wet operations. “Republican political operative Roger Stone, Eliot Spitzer's longtime antagonist, predicted his political demise more than three months in advance.‘Eliot Spitzer will not serve out his term as governor of the state of New York,' Stone said Dec. 6 on Michael Smerconish's radio talk show. He gave no details. Spitzer's entrapment by federal authorities investigating a prostitution ring raised speculation that Stone, with a 40-year record as a political hit man, somehow was behind it. In truth, Stone had nothing to do with the investigation and said he had not heard about it when he made a prediction based on his general view of Spitzer." Robert Novak – March 16, 2007 "The State-of-the-Art Washington Sleazeball.” The New Republic (1985) It would require require a corrupt administration in Washington willing to stoop to using the apparati of the federal government in order to overthrow lawfully elected leaders on American soil. "Karl Rove, former chief political adviser to President Bush and "architect'' of the president's election campaigns, once sought salacious photographs of the Democratic governor of Alabama, an aide to the convicted ex-governor tells CBS News' 60 Minutes in an interview airing Sunday.Yet there is no truth to this allegation, according to Rove's lawyer, who tells the Tribune the president's adviser never asked for any such thing. The Republican operative in Alabama tells CBS that Rove asked her to try to prove the state's Democratic governor was unfaithful to his wife in an effort to thwart the highly successful politician's re-election. Rove's attempt to smear Don Siegelman was part of a Republican campaign to ruin him that finally succeeded in imprisoning him, says the operative, Jill Simpson, in an interview with 60 Minutes' Scott Pelley. CBS News says: "Simpson spoke to Pelley because, she says, Siegelman's seven-year sentence for bribery bothers her. She recalls what Rove, then President Bush's senior political adviser, asked her to do at a 2001 meeting" The Swamp-Chicago Tribune Washington Blog (February 13, 2008) It would require the participation of people’s whose hatred of the target in question had achieved degrees almost pathological. ‘Acid-tongued political consultant Roger Stone was tossed overboard by state Senate Republicans yesterday over an ugly phone message to Gov. Spitzer's father. While insisting he had no idea if Stone was the anonymous caller, Senate Majority Leader Joe Bruno said the allegations were "serious enough, despicable enough" to push Stone to quit his $20,000-a-month gig. Stone insisted he didn't make the call to 83-year-old Bernard Spitzer that referred to his son as a "phony, psycho piece of s---." Along with his theory that dirty tricksters broke into his Central Park South apartment and used doctored recordings to frame him, Stone yesterday added an alibi: At the time of the call, he was attending "Frost/Nixon" on Broadway. One hole in his story: There was no performance of the play on the night of Monday , Aug. 6, when the message was left on the elder Spitzer's voice mail. Daily News (August 23, 2007) It would take the intimate participation of someone with more than a passing familiarity with the seamy side of America’s sexual underbelly. “Big time political strategist Roger Stone and his wife Nikki: The former Bob Dole adviser and his wife were swingers and The Vault was a favorite haunt. ‘Roger and Nikki were our customers for a long time,’ Marini says. ‘They were heavy duty swingers and ran ads on the Internet and in many sex publications. They were heavy players.’ THE NATIONAL ENQUIRER And it would take an operative with enough connections within the world of Democrats to ensure that its target would find no support at home. “Roger Stone, the longtime Republican dirty-tricks operative who led the mob that shut down the Miami-Dade County recount and helped make George W. Bush president in 2000, is financing, staffing, and orchestrating the presidential campaign of Reverend Al Sharpton.” The Village Voice (January 27, 2004) How could such an operation ever be put together? Roger Stone? Oliver Stone? Coincidence? I think not. Hey Gatey
Is the "Bush" reference in the title political or anatomical?
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Political or anatomical? Roger Stone's anti Hillary 527 group is called: Citizens United Not TimidQuery: Is that polical or anatomical? I would cite it as an example of the depths to which right-wing hate mongering has plumbed to in our nations, if it were not so reminiscent of the stuff I now read about Mrs. Clinton from called "progressive" thinkers. Is this a parody of progressive paranoic political discourse, or an example of it?
Beach man told FBI of alleged Spitzer sexscapades Posted on Fri, Mar. 21, 2008 BY AMY DRISCOLL Almost four months before Gov. Eliot Spitzer resigned in a sex scandal, a lawyer for Republican political operative Roger Stone sent a letter to the FBI alleging that Spitzer ''used the services of high-priced call girls'' while in Florida. The letter, dated Nov. 19, said Miami Beach resident Stone learned the information from ''a social contact in an adult-themed club.'' It offered one potentially identifying detail: the man in question hadn't taken off his calf-length black socks ``during the sex act.'' Stone, known for shutting down the 2000 presidential election recount effort in Miami-Dade County, is a longtime Spitzer nemesis whose political experience ranges from the Nixon White House to Al Sharpton's presidential campaign. His lawyer wrote the letter containing the call-girl allegations after FBI agents had asked to speak to Stone, though he says the FBI did not specify why he was contacted. ''Mr. Stone respectfully declines to meet with you at this time,'' the letter states, before going on to offer ''certain information'' about Spitzer. ''The governor has paid literally tens of thousands of dollars for these services. It is Mr. Stone's understanding that the governor paid not with credit cards or cash but through some pre-arranged transfer,'' the letter said. ''It is also my client's understanding from the same source that Governor Spitzer did not remove his mid-calf length black socks during the sex act. Perhaps you can use this detail to corroborate Mr. Stone's information,'' the letter said, signed by attorney Paul Rolf Jensen of Costa Mesa, Calif. The letter also notes that while Stone believes the information is true, he ''cannot swear to its accuracy'' because it is second-hand. James Margolin, a spokesman for the FBI's New York office, would not say whether the bureau had received the letter. A spokeswoman for Spitzer also had no comment. The letter was written several months after allegations were leveled at Stone that he had left a threatening phone message at the office of Bernard Spitzer, the ex-governor's father, regarding ''phony'' campaign loans involving his son's unsuccessful 1994 bid for attorney general. Stone denied making the call but resigned as a consultant for state Senate Republicans in Albany. Spitzer, the crusading attorney general who became governor, resigned March 12 amid allegations he was a client of a high-paid prostitution ring, the Emperors' Club. Four people have been charged with operating the ring. Spitzer has not been charged. A federal affidavit described a rendezvous between Spitzer and a prostitute known as Kristen, since identified as Ashley Alexandra Dupre, at the Mayflower Hotel in Washington on Feb. 13. One of Stone's lawyers, Fort Lauderdale attorney Robert Buschel, said the letter's release is an attempt to set the record straight about Stone's possible part in the Spitzer drama. Stone confirmed the letter and referred The Miami Herald to his lawyer for comments. ''The conspiracy enthusiasts on the Internet are going wild over Roger Stone's role in the fall of Eliot Spitzer. We felt it was important to lay out for the public exactly what Mr. Stone did tell the government,'' said Buschel, a partner in Rothstein, Rosenfeldt, Adler of Fort Lauderdale. Stone works as a partner in a separate public affairs and consulting company with the same name -- Rothstein, Rosenfeldt, Adler -- in the same office as the law firm. ''We trust this information was helpful to federal authorities in making their case against Mr. Spitzer,'' Buschel said.
What is the point of generally dismissing "conspiracy theories?" In our culture, the term has been used to create a shield around certain activities so that they are not investigated. When the administration does not want something investigated, it is labeled a "conspiracy theory," and people have been trained not to believe/consider any facts surrounding the issue. Most everyone believes that many politicians are corrupt, but no one believes that they might conspire to do something wrong. What kind of logic is this?
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