Does NYC Want Solar Energy?

Gotham Gazette has a story on New York City's goal of creating a green economy. As it happens, I had solar panels installed on my roof last year, receiving massive federal, state and local subsidies for doing do. But part of the subsidy was absorbed by the cost of bureaucracy. From the time I signed a contract until the time the final inspection was completed, the solar project took nearly a year. But the actual installation of the solar panels and equipment took just ONE DAY, in part because the contractor was good, and in part because I had planned for it, timing solar installation with the need for a new roof.

Con Edison was responsible for almost none of the hold-up. The state took a long time to approve the subsidy payment, perhaps because funding for alternative energy has been raided and there isn't enough to go around.

Multiple city agencies took forever to process multiple permits and inspections. The solar company had to hire an architect and an expeditor.

The Department of Finance required a survey to prove the solar panels would not pass through the zoning height and setback regulations of the R5B district. Obviously there ought to be some rule so a homeowner would not be allowed to put up a 200-foot tower covered with panels, but R5B was designed to limit height to a flat roof whereas solar panels slant. The problem is solar panels are not listed among the permitted penetrations of a sky exposure plane/height and setback regulations, like building bulkheads, aerials, flagpoles etc. That list hasn't changed since the 1960s -- its all individual Department of Buildings interpretations.

Another homeowner told me he was getting a pushback from the Fire Department, which in the absence of rules created an ad hoc requirement for roof access which would have basically banned solar panels from rowhouses. Should roof access in the event of a fire be considered? Absolutely. But with everyone imposing ad hoc, unilateral rules, it isn't being considered very well.

The city required an asbestos survey of the roof before the roof could be cut into, something that would not be required for anything else. I hustled the guy down to the basement to look at some pipe coverings there and provide some advice, so the inspection I paid for wouldn't be a total waste.

The installer told me NYC and Nassau are bad places to install solar panels from a regulatory point of view, with Suffolk, Westchester and NJ much better. Eventually the subsidy for solar per installation is going to have to drift down if the industry is to grow. All the more reason to have the bureacratic cost fall as well. It is what economists call a "deadweight loss."

There are enough sleazy contractors in this world that I wouldn't suggest "self certification" for green building retrofits. But if NYC really wants more green retrofits, it should create new a single agency to review, approve and inspect them across the whole range of requirements -- with a new staff lacking the inbred mess of overall city government. Like it did for the motion picture industry, even if the solar guys aren't as rich or good looking as movie stars. Government agencies have a lifecycle, beginning with idealism and efficiency and degenerating to sloth, corruption and a beat the system mentality. A new agency might reset the clock for 25 or 30 good years, until the initial staff retires.

What's it like having solar panels? Highly motivating. Suddenly, even the teens in the house are shutting off the lights when they leave a room. Replacing the frig, buying a spin dryer, and making some other adjustments, it looks like we'll be able to cut our average power use down to 8.5 kilowatt hours per day from 12. That will get us to break even over a year, even though street trees shaded half the roof and we could only put panels in the back. Breasking even would be kind of cool, and would lock in the cost of our electricity at a pre-paid rate for the next 25 years, a nice hedge against inflation.

The neighborhood will benefit as well, in exchange for the subsidies, as we directly use very little of the power we produce. On a hot afternoon in the summer, when the electric infrastructure is strained and electricity costs the most, our panels are throwing power into local grid for others to use. On a winter evening, when power is cheap and the grid is under less strain, we'll be buying it back. That's why solar makes sense -- it isn't a good deal based on average cost, but it is the cheapest based on peak cost. But if NYC wants it, then it should cease offsetting the benefit of its subsidies with costly delays.



Submitted by Anonymous bosch (not verified) on Fri, 04/09/2010 - 7:34am.
hey, thanks for pointing out the usual nyc bs involved in any project; i've often wondered why we're not making more progress covering every flat roof with solar panels; guess your experience is part of the reason.  amazing thing is, as technology continues forward, there are even materials that can be used to cover building walls which are photovoltaic.  hopefully it'll improve to the point where the roofing material itself is the solar collector rather than having to build on top.  I had my house surveyed, but i'm just not sited quite correctly to have it make sense economically.  but, good for you, and thanks for your perseverance. Schizophrenia Symptoms | Amlodipine Besylate
Submitted by Larry Littlefield on Fri, 04/09/2010 - 8:11am.
The installer took care of all the permits and inspections. I'll bet that cost as much as the installation.

The thing is, it was hard to even find an installer. The company I hired was only willing to do my small job because I'm friends with the local solar pioneer up the block.

It is the same cost and time for the permits and inspections for a huge system on the roof of an apartment building or warehouse as it is for a small system on the roof of a house. The installers don't even want to do those small installations as a result, and may not even make money on them.

The city -- and remember I worked there in a regulatory agency -- doesn't seem to get that a large compliance cost fall harder on you the smaller you are. I was once meeting with DEP, trying to come up with a simple, yes or no set of rules for a small workshop on a commercial street. Not needed, they said, just have the applicant's lawyer, architect and engineer work with us. Laywer, architect and engineer? How about an immigrant who barely speaks English who has worked 10 years at a low wage to save up $10,000 to rent some equipment, get a sign, and sign a lease?

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