The Opposite of Non-Partisan Elections

Mr. Skurnick has pointed out that the proposed language in the charter text amendment concerning signature requirements in the draft report is different than what was described in the executive summary, which I read before writing the post below. Hopefully, the language in draft text, not in the executive summary, is what is intended to be done. The executive summary is confusing, and should be modified, if the intent is make the number of signatures required for independent candidates the same as for party primaries. The executive summary language is below.

"The proposal reduces from 7,500 to 3,750 the number of signatures necessary to gain access to a party primary for the Mayor, Comptroller, and Public Advocate; reduces from 4,000 to 2,000 the number of signatures necessary to gain access to a party primary for Borough Presidents; and reduces from 900 to 450 the number of signatures necessary for Council members to gain access to a party primary, or to 2,700 for access to the general election ballot for independent candidates."

Do they mean that the number of signatures will be reduced to just 2,700 for a candidate for Mayor, but as many will be required for a candidate for City Council? How does that make sense, when the former is running to represent a city of 8 million while the latter is running to represent one little area?

Apparently not, according to Mr. Skurnick and text deep in the report.


Submitted by Jerry Skurnik on Wed, 08/18/2010 - 7:51am.
In the link to the Charter Commission above, it says in the proposed change that the same number of signatures will be required for designating and nominating petitions. That reads to me like independents & Democrats will both need 450 for City Council. If this is true, it makes it easier for independent candidates to get on the ballot than Democrats as they have a few more days and a bigger pool of potential signers as the average Council District has 56,000 Democrats and 80,000 voters. Anorexia Tips
Submitted by Larry Littlefield on Wed, 08/18/2010 - 8:41am.
"Reduces from 900 to 450 the number of signatures necessary for Council members to gain access to a party primary, or to 2,700 for access to the general election ballot for independent candidates."

That's the way I read it -- it's a direct quote. They should make it say what they mean, whatever that is, unless they intend to mislead voters (or leave it up to the courts). Again, do they really mean to require fewer signatures for an independent candidate for Mayor than a party primary? That makes no sense.

If their intention is what you say it is, why don't they say "The number of signatures required for political party members to be on the ballot for a party primary or independent candidates to be on the ballot for a general election is..." These guys are experts at referenda that don't do what they say. Remember the first term limits repeal referedum?

In any event, is not the number of signatures required and other rules determined by the state election law?

Submitted by Jerry Skurnik on Wed, 08/18/2010 - 1:37pm.
Proposed Text Section 1. The New York city charter is amended by adding a new section 1057-b to read as follows: § 1057-b. Designating and independent nominating petitions; number of signatures. a. The number of signatures required for any designating petition or independent nominating petition for the designation or nomination of a candidate for an elected office of the city shall be governed by applicable provisions of the New York state election law, except that in no event shall the number of signatures required exceed the following limits: (1) for the offices of mayor, comptroller, or public advocate, three thousand seven hundred fifty signatures; (2) for the office of borough president, two thousand signatures; and (3) for the office of member of the city council, four hundred fifty signatures.
Submitted by Larry Littlefield on Wed, 08/18/2010 - 2:05pm.
It appears the language in the executive summary is different that the language in the text proposed charter amendment.

Hopefully the proposed charter amendment is what they plan to do.

Submitted by Christ Bran on Tue, 11/29/2011 - 3:33am.

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