Bill and Hillary Clinton (Billary) Have Blown Off the Black Vote

In January of 1980, I started attending Columbia University in New York; it was a presidential election year. Ted Kennedy was reluctantly challenging President Jimmy Carter for the Democrat’s nomination. With freshman excitement I followed the on-campus involvement in the race between these two. Then one day Ted Kennedy came to our uptown campus, bringing media, cameras and controversy. You see, some imaginative white kid (and believe me when I say that at Obama’s alma-mater Columbia U, kids of all races and ethnicities were very very imaginative in my day there) stole the show.

This youngster stole the headlines in the newspapers- and the highlights on television- when he placed a large colorful cardboard placard behind Ted Kennedy’s head. It said: “Will You Test Drive a Used Car With This Man?”

Needless to say that Kennedy’s presidential stock started falling from that moment. He lost the primary to Jimmy Carter despite double-digit unemployment and double-digit inflation during the tenure of Carter’s administration. For those who don’t get the punch line let me give you one hint: Chappaquiddick (or Google it along with Kennedy’s name/lol)

In some esoteric circles on campus a debate raged as to the propriety of this kid’s action. Many felt that he had overstepped his boundaries, since this incident (Chappaquiddick) was a personal tragedy for many. Others felt that in politics and political campaigns, every/ and anything goes; in the end the voters decide. Well we are at that moment in presidential politics again: where does propriety start and end. Did the Clintons cross the bounds of propriety when they desperately pulled all the stops to win (steal?) the New Hampshire (NH) primary? Did they go too far? Did they cross the line? Eventually the voters will judge; but I say they did.

Yesterday one of South Carolina’s black representatives in the House (Rep. James Clayburn; the dean of black democrats) expressed disgust at Hilary Clinton’s put down of Martin Luther King’s contribution to the civil rights gains of the sixties. He is considering endorsing someone other than Hillary in the upcoming primary (Obama or Edwards), after deliberately staying neutral in the race. He is also angry at Bill Clinton’s calling of Barack Obama’s campaign a “fairy tale”. This comes behind Rep. Conyers calling for a anti-Hillary campaign in Michigan‘s primary-where she is the only candidate on the ballot. And don’t forget John Kerrey’s endorsement of Barack- coming hastily as it did yesterday. What you are seeing folks, is a sinking ship being deserted in droves by humans, rats, roaches, fleas, flies, moths, you name it. I expect Ted Kennedy, Howard Dean and Al Gore to follow John Kerrey’s lead.

When I wrote my last column (Hillary Clinton Stole the New Hampshire Primary and Should be Punished) many here couldn’t understand it; so what did they do: they attacked me. Fine. We will see who gets the last laugh when this thing is over. What the Clintons didn’t understand in their New Hampshire desperation was that their tactics would backfire eventually. They also didn’t understand that you could win the battle (NH primary) but lose the war (the nomination).

What has been slowly evolving over the past few days after her NH victory is an anti- Clinton groundswell in the black community. She will be crushed in South Carolina; watch. And she will lose Nevada also; watch. What my detractors here -like Wonk, JP (whoever the hell this is) and others- don’t get, is that I am usually ahead of the pack in my political analysis. Bill and Hillary Clinton fucked up big time in New Hampshire. You guys thought I was just spewing sour grapes; time will tell.

When she concluded in a stump speech that Martin Luther King only dreamed, and that Lyndon B. Johnson delivered civil rights (because he was a “doer” like she is), she “violated” (as the kids say on the streets). She will pay a price for this. When she (in her teary moment) said: “I just don’t want to see us (the country) fall backwards”, she was insinuating that a loss for her (and a win for Barack/ since he was way ahead in the polls) would send the country in some type of downward spiral; and insinuated in a racially coded way, that the half-black guy doesn’t fit the bill. When they both (Billary) suggested that this half-white guy “was an easy target for AlQaeda”, again they were suggesting in a coded way that Barack Obama isn’t up to scratch; you can’t trust the reins of this country to him. They knew exactly what they were doing. They knew it only too well. These are two exceptional people with highly developed intellects folks. Don’t be hoodwinked folks.

By touching the Holy Grail (MLK) of blacks in the USA, Hillary Clinton blew off the black vote. When she and her hubby basically accused Barack of peddling “false hopes” and essentially minimized him as a dreamer, and basically trivialized him as naïve and idealistic, it was all racially coded. What they have failed to grasp (like near everyone else) is that Barack’s core support (until now) has been young whites. These voters distrust the old school of politicians that Bilary belongs to. That’s why he is doing so well: they are coming out to vote for him. Why do you think you are seeing record votes so far? It’s because he is attracting people who don’t usually participate in this process. He is quite inspirational. He is magical.

When she accused Obama of “raising false hopes”, she portrayed him as unrealistic; it was a subtle put down. Barack was swift in responding that JFK didn’t look at the moon and say: “can’t happen”. He further went on to say that Martin Luther King didn’t look at the task ahead, and tell that large crowd at his “I Have a Dream” speech: the same thing. Both JFK and MLK had the audacity to dream and hope. Barack won that round and it will show eventually.

Hillary Clinton-the former head of Republican chapters in high school and college-, who enthusiastically supported Barry Goldwater for president, is too calculating for her own good. Remember Barry Goldwater was one of those white leaders who placed his political body in front of the civil rights train, trying to block human decency, progress, justice and common sense. If we are going to judge and castigate (as Clinton supporters have) Barack Obama’s drug use as a youth, why can’t we judge and castigate Hillary for her Goldwater support as a youth? It’s called: even Steven.

Are you really surprised at her MLK put down given her background here? Are you going to contend that she was totally unaware of Goldwater’s civil rights positions? And where was she during the civil right days? What was she doing then?

You all must know that in the USA (as in many parts of the world), there are folks who believe that blacks are intellectually inferior to whites. This has been around long before Hitler’s theories on “Aryan superiority”. If the Clintons keep trivializing and minimizing Barack’s candidacy, what do you think they are doing in a coded way? They are suggesting that this mulatto is inferior. Why else would Bill say that to elect Barack is “to roll the dice”? And about his “fairy tale” comment; what is he saying: that a non-white could never be president? That that could only happen in a fairy tale? Or in a dream?

Let’s go further into Bill Clinton’s remarks. He said that the media didn’t scrutinize Barack’s comments about the war; they essentially gave him a pass. Look at the videotape and you will see Bill’s angry and sarcastic comments at the end of his lengthy tirade against Obama: “gimme a break” (he actually said “gimme a break”). He insinuated that Barack was far from forthright or honest, when he (Obama) said that didn’t know if he would have voted for the authorization of the war- if he was actually in Congress at the time (and I assume privy to the classified briefings and such). What Clinton failed to say in that statement was that Barack further amplified it with this: “I don’t know what I would have done; but what I do know is (for the war) the case wasn’t made” (from his vantage point outside congress). Can’t you guys see what Bill was doing there: undermining Barack’s credibility on the Iraq war- and his position against the war from jump street- with a cheap trick; a distortion? It was low.

Understand the battle here: Barack Obama is claiming that it isn’t only about experience, it’s also about judgement; and that Hillary showed bad judgement when she voted to authorize this war, and also by failing to apologize for her vote. So they have to chip away at this and in so doing they have taken on the issue. This is why Bill went after Barack’s vote to fund the troops; it is just that he conveniently failed to mention that Hillary also voted to continue funding the troops; deliberate amnesia I guess. Or was it another attempt at chicanery?

So Bill Clinton- of “I had no relations with that woman” fame- has the chutzpah to question Barack’s credibility. Bill Clinton-of “it depends on what is means” fame- has the gumption to suggest that Barack is dishonest. Well, now you have to excuse me when I say: gimme a friggin break. Barack Obama (as I told you all in August/ see my “Barack’s ATM” column) is the most exciting candidate ever to contest a US presidential primary. He is delivering some of the greatest stump speeches ever delivered by a presidential candidate. If you don’t believe me then ask Tim Russert (NBC) and the many others who have publicly said it. And don’t forget that Tim Russert only wrote presidential speeches for a living once or twice in his lifetime.

This is the man (Obama) that the Clintons are trying to diminish, denigrate, tear down, pull down, demean, pulverize and trivialize (amongst other things). A man who returns their bows and arrows with dignity and grace; who returns their sling-shots with taste, style and wit; and who suffers their indignities with the patience of a diplomat. One of these days, the black side of him is going to go upside their heads; watch. If he doesn’t lose it and break on these two-before Hilary’s inevitable and complete meltdown (which I saw coming since November/remember my column) - then the bad boy is a saint (nothing less). Don’t forget that I have warned you all- over and over- that there is a zillion ton gorilla at the back of the room: racism.

In essence, Bill Clinton has called Barack Obama a snake-oil salesman. Furthermore, he is suggesting that Obama is untruthfully and dishonestly peddling false hopes. The way, timing and manner in which Bill Clinton has done this, is something blacks would not forgive him for. Especially coming from a man with so many character flaws; a man who blacks have stood up for over and over and again when he was relentlessly attacked by white folks. This is a backstab from the Clintons and blacks know it. Watch.

The constant theme within the undertones of the Clintonian messages about Barack Obama is simple: this black (half-white) man is not comparable to Hillary (how audacious to even think it); he can’t measure up and doesn’t have her experience; he is inferior in every way. It plays right in to the historical fears, lapses into ignorance, lapses of insecurity, lapses of judgement, angst from the uncertainties of the future and the unknown, plus the awesome prejudices of some (oft times many) white folks. Don’t be naïve folks; there is a purpose to all this. Read my articles on this race again; read my warnings again; you will understand all this better. This is some deep stuff; it’s way over many folks heads (most folks).

Recently on this site, my detractors unfairly called me sexist and racist, despite my body of writings here that clearly show who and what I am, in both ideology and thinking. I am no racist. I have said over and over and again, that racism goes both sides of the tracks (black and white) in the good ole USA. I must admit though that I do have a lil male chauvinism in my bones. I will suggest that it’s a cultural hangover from my island upbringing. I am working on it; I am still a work in progress; God isn’t finished with me as yet/lol.

The attacks on me came because of my last column, where I brought to your attention some of the stuff that went on in NH. Just yesterday, Congressman Dennis Kucinich, another presidential candidate on the democrat’s side of the fence, intoned that he wants to challenge the NH primary results because of the many claims of fraud coming from the field. NH officials said that’s fine but he will have to pay the costs. Of course when this blogger (Rock Hackshaw) raises this specter, I am soundly criticized on this website, by perennial detractors and player-haters. My info couldn’t be that good. My sources couldn’t be that good; no matter how many times over the years, I have proven the contrary. I am even castigated for making supposedly libelous statements, inferences or claims; this despite the fact that I blamed no one person in particular, for actual fraud.

I was not being a sore loser when I told you all that there were many things going on in NH, that were outside the pall; there were lots of irregularities and lots of dirty tricks. It was the desperation of the Clintons that induced all this; they are sore losers. Wait till she has to pull her candidacy after the super duper thumping she will get on “Super Tuesday”

(February 5th). Remember (again) I told you first.

On the streets in many black communities, folks will warn you in advance prior to you messing up (making a big mistake); they usually say: “don’t go there”. Hilary should have never “gone there” with her MLK remarks. To suggest that neither JFK nor MLK (especially) were the real heroes of the civil rights era was a major major faux-pas. It was a big time mistake. They have blown off the black vote and they will spend a long time and a lot of resources trying to fix this one; unsuccessfully.

Stay tuned-in folks; you can stick a fork in the Clintons: they are done. They are as cooked as chicken leg at a summer barbecue in any black household.



Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Fri, 01/11/2008 - 3:47pm.
you are an angry dude
Submitted by Yoda on Fri, 01/11/2008 - 3:51pm.
Your complaints are simply that Hillary Clinton and her strongest supporter agressively campaigned against her main opponent. That's politics. And saying that a nut-job like Dennis Kucinich has a similiar point is not helping your cause. Have you seen a UFO too?
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Fri, 01/11/2008 - 3:59pm.

Great rant - I am so angry myself, and I am not even black (although I am a woman).  Hillary and Bill totally crossed the line on how they talked about Obama and his message of hope. 

 

 

 


Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Fri, 01/11/2008 - 3:59pm.

Great rant - I am so angry myself, and I am not even black (although I am a woman).  Hillary and Bill totally crossed the line on how they talked about Obama and his message of hope. 

 

 

 


Submitted by EnWhySeaWonk on Fri, 01/11/2008 - 4:26pm.

Good piece over all Rock. Very convincing and clearly from the heart without the overt anger and bitterness that heavily flavored the last one. And you very well may be right. Barack might be the winner of the nomination due in part to what you discuss here.

But I am the Rock Truth Police. No Rock, we didn't attack you, we criticized your piece. One poster invited people to read your previous posts and comments to see how thin your skin is. Cynical Negro wrote:

But I now I have to publicly wonder if the opinion expressed by other posters - that Hackshaw is unable to withstand criticism and does not constructively engage posters - has hurt his ability to evolve and grow his blog.

It's a distortion and self-victimization to continue to call these "attacks" when you are critiqued legitimately. (You have, in fact , been attacked for other pieces, but not by JP or me ever.)

You still haven't responded to numerous parts of JP's very well reasoned piece, which you dismiss with a wave of your hand "they just don't understand, so they attack me." You did what you always do, which is respond to parts you wanted to, call it an attack, then pretend that you substantively responded (otherwise you say you're ignoring your critics, and then keep selectively responding to them). This piece would be quite excellent had you not gone with your usual tricks and left out the pretending that legitimate criticism are attacks.

I give you B+, in part because you just can't help yourself when it comes to this aforementioned self-victimization.

Now a nit-pick. Howard Dean is the chair of the DNC. He will not endorse any candidate during the process. I'm surprised you didn't know that.


Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Fri, 01/11/2008 - 4:30pm.

Rock,

    I do not always agree with you, but on this, I back you up 110%!!!  I am pissed off at the Clintons right now and the racial politics that they relied upon to win New Hampshire.  I think that they have made a HUGE mis-step. 

  The "fairytale" comment as well as the comments about MLK and Lyndon Johnson just really put me over the edge.


Submitted by Yoda on Fri, 01/11/2008 - 5:13pm.
BTW, Tim Russert never wrote any Presidential speeches. He worked for a Senator and a Governor.
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Fri, 01/11/2008 - 5:13pm.

It's going to be interesting to see how many bloggers try to distract Rock's issues about Billary and instead try to bait him on in debates about anything else.

Rock - keep pumping out the facts about this election, and about racism - and don't let them chase you off this board. They simply don't want you to inform the voters. Don't take the bait. Keep on blogging!

 


Submitted by Yoda on Fri, 01/11/2008 - 5:15pm.
And before you again start patting yourself on the back for accurately predicting the impossible, I, along with 90% of the pundits agree with you that Obama will win Nevada & South Carolina.
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Fri, 01/11/2008 - 6:24pm.
Bill and Hillary Clinton certainly didn't cross the line. I agree with Bill that Obama's campain is "fairy tale." I can tell you, this black tale will never come true.
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Fri, 01/11/2008 - 6:27pm.
Zap
Submitted by Corey_L (not verified) on Fri, 01/11/2008 - 6:45pm.

Bill and Hillary Clinton have stooped lower than Trent Lott, George "Macaca" Allen and Strom Thurmond combined here.

This isn't just "aggressive campaigning"-- the way the Clinton campaign team has been pushing these innuendos against Obama about the madrassahs and the cocaine-dealing, Bill Clinton's old-fashioned lynch mob-classic labeling of Obama as a "kid" (anyone from the south can recognize that code), Hillary Clinton's hatchet job on MLK's legacy, then the "hip black friend" and "shuck and jive" comment, all of this is not accidental.'

This is an obvious, orchestrated campaign by the Clintons to bait Obama with openly racist sludge and push him to respond, painting him as the "angry black candidate" that would scare away White voters.

It's openly racist campaigning by the Clintons, and now for good reason, African-Americans will never vote for her.

On top of this, South Carolina has touch-screen voting: NO PAPER TRAIL, NO AUDITING OF THE BALLOTS. IOW, South Carolina, despite Obama's massive support there, is tailor-made for the Clintons to hack the voting machines-- very easy to do, as has been shown-- and thus rig the results in their favor, then blame the electoral fraud on some crap like "the Bradley effect." If you live in SC, then demand that the state move toward paper ballots with full accounting of every single vote!

This is gonna get very ugly very soon. If the Clintons win in SC and especially if Hillary gets nominated in the wake of such fraud and this open racism, just like my old friend from the 'hood was tellin' me, US cities are gonna be on fire, it's gonna make Detroit in 1968 seem like candles on a birthday cake by comparison. Scares the livin' heck out of me, but when rage is this potent and this raw, if people are denied justice in the ballot box, then it comes out through other means.


Submitted by Corey_L (not verified) on Fri, 01/11/2008 - 6:52pm.

The Clintons and their corporate handlers would like nothing more than to rig South Carolina using the touch-screen voting machines in SC, which conspicuously have no paper trail and are easy to hack, which was shown by a computer science professor a year ago.

GO TO THE SC STATEHOUSE AND ELECTION COMMISSION, AND INSIST UPON PAPER BALLOTS!

This should be our single biggest priority in the next few weeks!


Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Fri, 01/11/2008 - 7:04pm.

What a Double Standard

The media and democrats destroy George Allen for a racial remark, while Andrew Cuomo gets off untouch for his racial remark.

Allan remark was dumb and arrogrant, Cuomo's was given to appeal to the voters racism.

David Patterson a big Hillary supporter who grew up in a wealthy community in Long Isand even said that Cuomo's racist "shuck & jive" crap was defended by Patterson as not racist

 

 


Submitted by Martha (not verified) on Fri, 01/11/2008 - 9:06pm.
I guess that's exactly what Bill and Hillary want you believe but they're dead wrong . I may be white but I know greatness when I see it no matter what the color. Obama has the power and grace to transend color, gender and people like the Clintons.
Submitted by Niccolo Machiavelli (not verified) on Sat, 01/12/2008 - 12:28am.
Hey Rock, did you see the Juan Gonzalez piece in the Daily News today?
Submitted by JP (not logged in) (not verified) on Sat, 01/12/2008 - 12:44am.

This is much better.  It's good to see you make informed and passionate analysis without going to the emotional gutter that you visited last time.

I'm still going to disagree with the basis of your argument that Hillary and her supporters are running a race based campaign.  I think they're trying to contrast the combined experience of Bill and Hillary with the relative newcomer status of Barack.  If you look at all the candidates, Barack is last when looking at FEDERAL experience, after John Edwards, who only served one term in the Senate (even Hillary is now two years into her second term).

That said, I can definitely understand why the minority communities  have interpreted some of these remarks as race-baiting and I don't blame them at all for deciding to support Obama instead of Hillary.  I will admit that Hillary and Co. need to become much more sensitive to the feelings of the black electorate in fear that if they don't, the black voters will sit the general election out and tip the election to the Republican candidate.

If Kucinich wants to spend the money he has left challenging the N.H. vote, go ahead.  However, here is a pretty good analysis of what happened that night: http://drunkardslamppost.wordpress.com/2008/01/09/diebold-and-new-hampshire/ 

 


Submitted by JP (not logged in) (not verified) on Sat, 01/12/2008 - 1:06am.

Let's also remeber that the discrimination knife cuts both ways.  If there's one lesson to be learned from N.H., it's that women will not accept a sexist campaign, just like minorities will not accept a racist campaign.  Here's the problem, 52% of our population is women and only about 33% are minorities.

For a glimpse at the feelings of the sexist undercurrent, take a look at the following NYTimes letters: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/11/opinion/l11elect.html


Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Sat, 01/12/2008 - 1:44am.

I am latina 'brown' and don't get the fairytale thing. My family has always been entrenched in the black community, in a personal way, vis a vie, family friends. I don't understand the racial overtones?


Submitted by LulaMay (not verified) on Sat, 01/12/2008 - 3:01am.

Mr. Hackshaw writes:

"I must admit though that I do have a lil male chauvinism in my bones. I will suggest that it’s a cultural hangover from my island upbringing. I am working on it; I am still a work in progress; God isn’t finished with me as yet/lol."

None of your remarks cannot be taken seriously because you expose your bias, admit you are sexist and laugh about it. Racism is not a laughing matter, and neither is sexism.

The sexist campaign against SENATOR Clinton is being waged by a very conspicuos number of men, "liberal" and conservative. This is not lost on a large number of women, of any race or political affiliation. All the charicatures, especially the accusation that she "faked" crying are old sexist stereotypes suggesting women can't be trusted, are liars and manipulative to get what they want. Every woman has had this smear thrown at her at some time in her life. It didn't work for the male owned and dominated media to suggest that her display of feelings meant she was "over emtional", so next they resort to calling her a liar. No matter what any liberal man, from Jesse Jackson to Chris Matthews, may think of Senator Clinton's candidacy, every one who has suggested she faked her emotions has exposed his sexsim and anger over her success, as well as their shock and anger that so many women have supported and voted for her.

This backlash against her by so many liberal men is an enormous attempt to chastise and threaten women for doing so. It is meant to pressure women to change their vote and support by accusing us of racism by association if we do not. It is meant to shut us up. It is targeted at liberal women to feel ashamed of fighting for our rights as much as we have fought for every man's. This is the VERY SAME tactic that liberal men used to pressure suffragists in the 1800's to back down and let the 15th amendment pass, giving the vote to ALL men, without demanding that women be included by adding "sex" in the language. Women suffragists were lied to and told that if they did this, their turn at getting the vote would come next and quickly. It didn't happen for over half a century later, after women had to chain themselves to the whote house fence , be jailed and tortured with force feedings. It was not lost on black women that they also were denied the vote by men, black and white. Maybe we all won't fall for that ruse again. Most women know that a man's political affiliation or leanings do not necessarily mean they are not sexist.....at all.

I believe a large number of men are simply shocked and reacting to the realization that women could actually vote in a woman as President. We were never supposed to use our votes for THAT! :)

Senator Clinton and Senator Obama are both fine candidates. He is a more gifted orator, she is better at debating. The Democratic party will do well to nominate either of them, but the men in this party had better be careful just how much sexist vitriol they throw Hillary's way, because it could result in hurting our party and her candidacy should she be nominated. Then again, it could also inspire enough women of all political leanings to vote for her because we are sick and tired of being so castigated. As Aretha Franklin sang "You better think, think about what you're trying to do to me"....FREEDOM, FREEDOM oh FREEDOM!

 



Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Sat, 01/12/2008 - 6:58am.

As an Edwards supporter, I find this all good sport. But, a few points probably should be addressed.

Hillary/Goldwater is probably irrellevant. It differs from Mitt Romney's social issue metamorphos (and Eric Adams' ping-pong party conversion, and Steve Harrison's sudden backflip from conservative to liberal) in at least three ways: 

1) the change came with the transition from adult to child as recieved wisdom gave way to that earned by experience.

2) it come with a paper trail in which the change is credibly explainable as a real  evolution in thinking.

3) The course of expedience would probably better been served the other way.

As to "fraud", which you keep deying that you are bringing up, but most assuredly believe,  when one has to cite the wisdom of Dennis Kucinich to justify one's position, it's time to call it a day.  

 


Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Sat, 01/12/2008 - 9:17am.

7:58: Althoug Reagan's conversion to conservatism was not youthful, and may have been expedient, it was clearly traceable by papertrail, which documented a sincere, and perhaps even painful evolution.

In that it would seem to be like Clinton's although Clinton also has the other attributes you cite.

Not sure who Adams and Harrison are.  


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Submitted by Rock Hackshaw on Sat, 01/12/2008 - 10:02am.
It is not just Dennis Kucinich who questioned the Election Day irregularities, even Cathereine Crier did- amongst many many others. I used him as an example (to my detractors) that I was not just raising false claims as a sore loser. DK was a candidate who only got about 3% of the vote; what was his motivation to offically challenge the results? He is verbally suggesting that Obama won in actuality. He is also suggesting that the present results were actually because of a miscount or something even more nefarious. My info came from Election Day field reports. My detractors were intoning that I was fabricating or bullshitting.

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Submitted by Rock Hackshaw on Sat, 01/12/2008 - 10:06am.
I will devote an article to dealing with the things you raised. Gimme a bit of time to craft it. I doubt that you really want to equate the human effects of racism on US society, with the effects of sexism.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Sat, 01/12/2008 - 10:06am.

This exactly what Hillary said about Martin Luther King. Please explain how it compares to Trent Lott.

"I would point to the fact that that Dr. King's dream began to be realized when President Johnson passed the Civil Rights Act of 1964, when he was able to get through Congress something that President Kennedy was hopeful to do, the President before had not even tried, but it took a president to get it done. That dream became a reality, the power of that dream became real in people's lives because we had a president who said, 'We are going to do it,' and actually got it accomplished."


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Submitted by Rock Hackshaw on Sat, 01/12/2008 - 10:17am.
Nowhere in my article did I use Trent Lott's name, so I don't know what you are talking about. In further amplifying and clarifying her statements, Hilary also said that it took a "doer" like her to make things happen. Isn't either MLK or Barack Obama a doer? She has implied (directly and indirectly) that she is "ready" and he is not. That she is "tested" and he is not. Look, for all the sacrifices of MLK and his followers (white, black, brown, other), the white male president LBJ just closed the game (in base ball terms). The hard work was done for hundreds of years prior-and it wasn't done by LBJ.

Submitted by Lela (not verified) on Sat, 01/12/2008 - 11:57am.

  I was so mad after what the Clintons said. However, I doubt Barack can hold off the evil Clintons any longer to get the Dem Nom. Look, I think they will buy off as many black churchs as possible in SC and Hispanic unions in NV in order to win.  Also, Hillary base is lots of middle age women who make up 50% of the country.

 Barack needs to hammer home his message of unity of all races. And stay away from only trying to get the black vote. I notice when Hillary was about to lose NH she played the gender card in her favor.

 


Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Sat, 01/12/2008 - 2:05pm.
Don't you forget that Bush said "White House is white"? A white house doesn't welcome any black master!!!
Submitted by Cynical Negro on Sat, 01/12/2008 - 3:17pm.
Open note to Hackshaw: Rock, it appears that you've modified your writing in this piece. Glad to see that you were able to provide greater detail without sacrificing any of the brutally candid opinion that I come here to read. Thanks for your posts, and keep up the good work.
Submitted by Cynical Negro on Sat, 01/12/2008 - 3:31pm.

Obama should not resort to (too many) dirty tricks at this point. It won't fit his message for change and it will cheapen him as a Presidential candidate.

It's going to be tough enough for him to overcome both legitimate concerns about his experience and being Black.

I still believe that this country is not 'psychologically prepared' for a Black President, although Obama has helped move the country in that direction.

Black males are still regarded as angry, predisposed to violent and/or criminal behavior, ineducable, unemployable and an overall drain on society.

Obama's elite educational and professional background mitigates some of this, but it doesn't change the overall stereotype. And isn't it that stereotype that the Clintons (and others) are going to exploit? Of course...


Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Sat, 01/12/2008 - 4:31pm.
I agree with anonymous. You are an angry dude who is hating on Mrs.Clinton. You're just t'd off because you want Obama to win, and she's his biggest competition. You should be happy if either him or her wins, becauuse I think they'd both be good for our country. They can't do us any worse than what Bush has done for us. She has not lost the entire black vote, if any at all. She proves her point when she said that Dr. King only dreamed. Look around at the world you live in today. There is still much prejudice in the U.S., not to mention all of the hate that still exists between different races, and you know it. You should really think about what you're are saying, and stop trying to turn Arfican American voters against her for her speaking of the truth. She's doing just like everybody else, earning her votes the right way.
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Sat, 01/12/2008 - 5:57pm.
I agree with you, I am so hurt and angry at the behavior of the Clintons. 
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Sat, 01/12/2008 - 6:14pm.
One of the folks agreeing with you made the Trent Lott reference. That was who I was responding to. I find it of interest that neither you nor anyone responded to what Hillary really said about King. Also, the reason Kucinich called for a recount is the same reason he has now run twice for President without any support. He is a publicity hound.
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Submitted by Rock Hackshaw on Sat, 01/12/2008 - 8:18pm.
I intend to do a column devoted to Hilary's MLK statements.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Sat, 01/12/2008 - 8:21pm.

I think you are reading too much into the Clintons' comments.  After all Bill Clinton was considered America's first "black president".  He was raised by a black woman (his mother's housekeeper, as he had no father and his mother worked two jobs)  Bill Clinton went to black churches all his life and considers himself as much black as white.  He has his office up in Harlem, where he can eat his favorite soul food at Sylvia's as often as he can.  Barack Obama on the other hand had never been to Sylvia's until one of his campaign aides made him do a photo op there with Al Sharpton on the way to a campaign event at the Apollo.  Hillary Clinton marched in civil rights rallies, and if you read her book, you will see where she says she left the republican party of her parents when she was convinced the GOP leaders were all racists who did not support Dr. King.

There are many racists in this country, but the Clintons are not among them.  The south that Bill Cllinton grew up in is one that Barack Obama has no idea about, having grown up surfing in Hawaii.  Obama never saw a Klan rally out there and unlike Clinton, his primary influences growing up were white.  I think it is grossly unfair to the Clintons to suggest that the color of one's skin makes one less racist than the next person. 


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Submitted by Rock Hackshaw on Sat, 01/12/2008 - 8:51pm.
Wher do you get this? I have never suggested that the color of ones skin makes them less racist than another? You couldn't have read my writings here to say this. I will elaborate on their (Clintons)behavior in another column. This Clinton civil rights thing is a myth and it is obvious that you have bought into it.

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Submitted by Rock Hackshaw on Sat, 01/12/2008 - 8:55pm.
BILL CLINTON WAS CONSIDERED AMERICA'S FIRST BLACK PRESIDENT BY WHO? Not by any people I know; and I sure don't consider him that. He is a lying power hungry manipulator, who has ruthlessly hurt a lot of people with his arrogance and insensitivity. Wait for my coming columns on them you will see.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Sun, 01/13/2008 - 10:37am.

  I was the person who wrote that I was deeply offended by the MLK comments.  I have a LOT to say about how this remark was not only offensive, but an inaccurate statement of what truly took place and how.  Since Rock says that he intends to write an entire coloum about this statement, I will wait.

Also, I do not need to be convinced that the Clintons are not racist.   I was a HUGE Hillary Clinton supporter up until about a week and half ago.  Paternalistic..perhaps...racist...no.

 However, what I resent, and why I will NOT vote for Hillary Clinton regardless of whether she gets the nomination or not, is that even though the Clintons may not be racists, when their backs were against the wall, when it really counted, they played the race card.   They even went so far as to attempt to minimize the true role of someone whom they say is one of their personal idols in the Civil Rights movement.   If you have studied Bill Clinton at all, you know that there are few people as well versed in racial politics as he is.  Nothing that he or Hillary said was mis-interpreted.  They knew exactly what they were doing and saying.   For their actions, I will never forgive or vote for either again.  Never.

  As for Andrew Cuomo....that remark was racist.  Period.  I will not give him a pass and neither should blacks in this state.  It's time to hold his feet to the fire.  What the Democrats have shown black America is that we can be their friends...as long as we don't attempt to gain any real power.    David Patterson should be ashamed!!!


Submitted by Larry Littlefield on Sun, 01/13/2008 - 2:07pm.
watch what the do. For taxes and spending, if you want to know what Bill Clinton, George W. Bush, George HW Bush and Ronald Reagan actually did, read my post and print out the table. There is good and bad to all of them although the long-term trend -- selling out the future -- is bad.
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Sun, 01/13/2008 - 9:26pm.
Rock, why not write about how Carribs has no respect for MLk's dream except only when it benifits them. Stop the B.S. you know what Hillary meant. And if you are so much for the dream why are your people not living it or trying to achieve it.
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Sun, 01/13/2008 - 9:29pm.
MLK's dream is still a dream because of those like you Rock. And if you are an intellect you know what I mean. His dream is still a dream because we are still divided thanks to the C's who are black yet do not see that in the mirror.
Submitted by Advocate (not verified) on Sun, 01/13/2008 - 11:38pm.

Cousin Rock-

Ted Kennedy actually won the 1980 New York Primary by a comfortable margin.


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Submitted by Rock Hackshaw on Sun, 01/13/2008 - 11:46pm.
Point was he lost the nomination, and after his New York stand his stock started falling, like a flaccid penis/lol.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Mon, 01/14/2008 - 9:33pm.

The Clinton stategy, with the help of CNN, and others, is to use language that will align Barack with stereotypical racist ideas. By contrast, they're trying to associate Hillary with femininity. The idea is to racialize Barack, to inspire rejection, while femenizing Hillary, to inspire protection.

It began with a CNN interview of Barack's African grandmother on the day before the New Hampshire Primary. One would think that the primary would be the focus of CNN's interview. One would expect questions about Barack’s campaign, and that his grandmother would be asked about her expectations respecting the New Hampshire Primary. But there were no such questions. As I watched, I came to understand that the viewer wasn't suppose to learn anything from Obama's grandmother, the point was to for us to see Obama's grandmother. We were to see how black she is, and how poor she is, and impute that to him.

http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/248558


Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Fri, 02/22/2008 - 11:09am.

OH Please, you people read into things to suit your feelings

Face It; America is afraid of Intelligent, Strong women

Get over it, She is much more qualified

 


Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Fri, 02/22/2008 - 11:14am.

Bravo!!

 


Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Thu, 02/28/2008 - 8:45pm.

barack hussein osama...end of story.  nice try though...lmao

day one of his presidency he'll be asking...where is that red armegeddon button they told me about?!

This guy could be a terrorist who has done everything correctly to this point in his life in order to get into a position to destroy us all...ever seen the Manchurian Candidate? 

 Are you willing to take that risk?

 


Submitted by Gina (not verified) on Wed, 08/13/2008 - 4:17pm.
Before Obama became a candidate, the black voting block loved the Clintons. If Obama wasn't on the ticket, the 90% of blacks voting for him would all be voting for Hillary. But, as soon as a black candidate was actually in sight of the nomination, it was time for blacks to throw the Clintons under the bus, and play the race card. These latter comments by black leaders putting the blame on Bill Clinton, are extremely disengenuous, and are merely attempts at damage control, as well as attempts at solidarity for the black candidate, at the expense of the Clintons.

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