Is the Independence Party some kind of “Mickey-Mouse” political party?

When I first ran for public office (state assembly) in 1998, I was called for an interview by the Brooklyn leaders of the Independence Political Party; so I showed up. I was reached out to by some people within that party, with whom I was politically connected. We met in a Brooklyn Diner (Lindenwood). I thought it was a strange venue for such an interview, but I held my sometimes-wayward tongue in check that night. There were many candidates seeking office(s) that year, and quite a few insurgents showed up to be interviewed. I thought I did well in the session, and their officials must have concurred since they offered me their line on the November ballot. 

A few days later, I was given instructions as to how I should go about collecting petitions from voters registered in the Independence party, and I spent quite a few dollars to have a coordinator manage the petition process. Eventually I filed with the Board of Elections and figured that was the end of that until the November elections. Much to my surprise (and chagrin), I was promptly served with legal papers and my petition was challenged in the court. I was stunned. After all, these officials guaranteed that everything will sail smoothly through: Wilson-Pekula and all. I refused to spend money on lawyers in order to contest the challenge, so I was knocked off the ballot. I guess I should have learned my lesson right there and then; but I didn’t. 

A few weeks ago I got a letter from the Independence Party. It came a few weeks after a phone call from so other party official, informing me that they were looking for candidates in Brooklyn to run on their line this upcoming November. Eventually we worked out an interview. It was held in a quaint lil restaurant in near Bushwick Avenue; de-ja-vu all over again; right?  

I had two people with me: my Director of Field Operations, and also one of my main advisors. I thought I did well (again); they both thought I was fantastic. Mr. Melvin Brown -the chairman of this one-member committee (the other person arrived after I left) - also thought my performance was pretty good. He called me within hours to tell me likewise, and also to tell me that they were recommending me to the higher-ups in the party’s hierarchy, so that I could run on their line in the general election. I was elated. Then two days later he left a congratulatory message on my answering machine, informing me that I had gotten the endorsement of the party. I was even more elated. 

I called my attorney (Mr. Terry Hinds) and instructed him to start negotiating with the party, as to what to do next, etcetera. For almost a week, there seemed to be various snags, misinformation, miscommunication and outright misrepresentation, on the part of those with whom he came into contact from the party. It was somewhat frustrating.

I went ahead and ordered materials (voters lists, mailing-labels, phone numbers, e-mail addresses, etc.), that cost me a few hundred dollars which I could ill-afford. Jerry Skurnik is my witness here, since I ordered stuff from “Prime New York” (a political consulting firm that develops lists, numbers, stats, info, etc. for candidates). I even gave a verbal commitment to having notaries carry my Independence Party petition. Then yesterday I was informed by Mr. Brown that the higher-ups of the party had decided to stay out of the race in the 40th district. Just like that; no real explanation of worth.

All this, has been rather disappointing (again) for me, and I hope Ms. Leonora Fulani could step in here and offer me an explanation as to what’s going on within this party. Is this a “Mickey-Mouse” political party or what? It’s time for the minor parties to get serious: really. 

Stay tuned-in folks (always).    



Submitted by mole333 on Mon, 06/15/2009 - 5:47am.

When I first moved to NYC I liked the minor party/Real Party interaction. By now I have realized each of the minor parties are really little more than scams. I had to learn that about the Greens long ago, but there seemed a better system here in NY.

Of course I think most people could have told you don't bother with the Independence Party. They are almost as irrelavent as that other minor NYC party is in most of the city, the republican party. 


Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Mon, 06/15/2009 - 5:48am.
What's going on is that in 1998 Fulani's faction of the party controlled Brooklyn. They were interested in money. Other things too but money was important. I think the going rate was $500 but they would have got more if you hired their lawyer to fight the challenge. In 2009 they still control the citywide offices - so Bloomberg's big payoff to them to get the line - but all the local offices are now controlled directly by the State Chairman, Frank MacKay, who hates Fulani and tried to kick her out of the party. The State Chairman was supposed to delegate recommendations to local people, so Melvin Brown interviewed you, probably in good faith, but MacKay has his own ideas and probably overruled Brown for who knows what reason.
Submitted by mole333 on Mon, 06/15/2009 - 5:59am.
$500 is about the going rate people routinely pay Vito Lopez, it seems, though that seems to be just to avoid his active opposition. Of course WFP require much higher tithes.

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Submitted by Gatemouth on Mon, 06/15/2009 - 6:34am.

We can argue all night whether or not the Brooklyn Democratic Couty Leader is corrupt (and we have ) and never agree, but the idea that he could be bought off for $500 is preposterously inane.  

Even our County Leader who was convicted for corruption could be bought off for a mere $500.    



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Submitted by Gatemouth on Mon, 06/15/2009 - 6:38am.

Why did you even bother? 

You either win the primary and win, or lose the primary or lose. The IP doesn't help you do the first, and drins resources, facilitating the second.

Lie down with dogs, etc.  



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Submitted by Rock Hackshaw on Mon, 06/15/2009 - 6:48am.
I found Mr. Melvin Brown to be very civil, respectful and cordial. His wife was as pleasant a lady as he a gentleman; and I do wish them success in their commercial ventures. However, he could have given me a deeper explanation of what the obstacles were for me in this situation. All he said was:"you may have to come back to another interview". I even agreed. Then the call came saying that I had gotten the endorsement, giving me the hope that everything was A-OK. Then all this ........................after I had spent money I could have better employed on my democratic primary run. Now, who is going to refund me my coins? Mckay? Fulani? Why should these egotistic battles over fiefdom have to cost someone else who has nothing to do with them? And why not run someone on the line (PERIOD)? Why have a ballot line if you are not using it? Why fight and argue over electoral reform and ballot access when you are not serious? Someone needs to explain all this to me, OR just let me have the Wilson-Pekula.

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Submitted by Gatemouth on Mon, 06/15/2009 - 7:04am.
Isn't the Lindenwood on the Queens side of the border?

Submitted by Larry Littlefield on Mon, 06/15/2009 - 8:35am.
The IP was started by some idealists, attracted opportunists, and quickly descended into a faction ridden mess. All the factions were once explained to me in terms slightly less strident than Gate's, but inside politics doesn't concern me, and I don't remember.

When I decided to run my Don Quixote campaign, the various factions put aside the their differences it seems. One helped me get on the ballot, the other (he's no longer active) put up a website for me.

I can only imagine the deterioration has gone on from there, to the point where factional fighting for control of the shell is all that is left.

The bottom line is, in the races that get attention -- Mayor, Governor -- we have a two party system. In others, we have a one party system. If the smaller parties are not going to help create challgenges for those offices on Election Day, when everyone shows up, they have no point. Or at least no point from the point of view of those who care about what is left of democracy in this country, as opposed to working what is left of it in their own interest.

I suggest you call MacKay and tell him that.

Submitted by mole333 on Mon, 06/15/2009 - 9:00am.

Perhaps $500 is merely the introduction fee. But I base my comment on the frequent payments of $500 by politicians running for office to Vito. That is the amount David Yassky paid. That is the amount Weprin paid twice. Actually I see that his campaign paid another $500. Shawndya Simpson took a different approach of three donations of $250 each, but in the same range. Frank Seddio seems to only have given $400. Again, same range. Recchia and Quinn gave a lot more. And of course Michael Ratner have to give over $3000 before Lopez would propose more tax breaks for Bruce Ratner, so I guess Lopez was charging more for Atlantic Yards or the Ratners were just being sure to hit the right price. They sure got more than anyone else has offered Ratner in exchange for donations.

Perhaps more needs to follow in some form to get a nod of approval or proposed legislation, but $500 or thereabouts seems a standard fee for SOMETHING for Vito because that is a common number for single payments.

Now Adler for Civil Court only gave $250, but I hear he didn't get all the help promised, so maybe he was being too cheap.


Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Wed, 07/29/2009 - 6:41am.

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