Kevin Powell pissed me off today; and he should know better

During the past week, Kevin Powell’s supporters have been up on the blogs trying to discredit me, after I publicly and openly announced that I was an advisor to the Ed Towns re-election campaign. And believe me when I say that I am playing a minor role in this regard. Bill Lynch and Associates are running this campaign folks; all the congressman did was ask me as an old political acquaintance/friend to help out a lil bit. I consented for many reasons that I may eventually share. As I have said many times before: I like Ed on a personal level; he has always treated me well. We kid around a lot but it’s with respect and camaraderie.

Now this isn’t the first time that I have worked on campaigns which I announced on the blogs, however it is the first time that I took so much flack for it. And the fact is I have worked with candidates that were much more controversial than Ed Towns. So why is this heat coming down on me? I believe that Powell has many sycophants running around out there who see him as the second coming of Malcolm X. What they need to know is that the last time I looked, this was a free country; and just like any citizen, I have the right to go with the candidate of my choice. I could go with the candidate I deem better for this race. That’s my darn prerogative.

As great a man that Malcolm X was (at least to me), he still had his detractors; even today, there are many who still see him as a racist. And this is because there was a point in his history, where he ran around with the Black Muslims. They saw white people as devils and openly said and wrote this.

Maybe the audacity of these sycophants is modeled after their candidate’s pomposity. You see I experienced Kevin Powell’s pomposity today at a public event the Powell campaign called for media folks. There were reporters from conventional media and also writers from blogdom (like me); most of whom appeared to be given face time with the candidate. When I tried to interview him, I was met with hostility as soon as I explained to him exactly who I was; and this came about after I told him he didn’t have to sit down for an interview now, but that I hope we can do it at some point in the future.

You see, after some of his supporters accused me of doing a hit piece on him (which is not true), with my last blog column about the race in which he is currently embroiled against incumbent congressman Ed Towns (“Revisiting the 10th Congressional District, etc.”), I made a personal decision to seek an interview with him, hear what he has to say (face to face), and to listen as objectively as I could to what he is offering. I even cut short an important meeting today to fit this press event into my schedule.

Why? Because I have quite a few friends who seem to be drinking his kool-aid; which moves me to at least give him a hearing beyond the many negative things that mainstream media has said about him. Plus he seems to generate passionate and loyal followers. This in itself isn’t overly impressive -since many people I consider fools commanded loyal followers; David Duke is a classic example- but it does make you take note. And yet, I couldn’t get in a word edgewise. He kept cutting me off, evaded my direct questions, kept interrupting my trains of thought and speech patterns, and wanted to have a conversation with himself that he was willing to impose on my ears.

When he mentioned that he was had been doing many wonderful things with youth, and was actively working in the Fort Greene projects, I had to interrupt him to make a valid point. I was a member of the Fort Greene Community Action Network for many years. I also sat on various boards of directors of organizations doing good community work in the area, at specific times over the past quarter century. I told him that I never saw or heard of him as to being involved in this area. To this he replied, that “what you did was then, and this is now”. And with that he abruptly jumped up without seeking an excuse, to go talk to two whites waiting close by (from a Brooklyn Peace Group/or something like that). It was highly discourteous. He looked like a little slave boy talking to one of his buddies and “massa” showed up suddenly.

Meanwhile, his apparent bodyguard -who seemed to be more than six and a half feet tall- ominously hovered over our exchange; this was a bit disconcerting. I waited for a while expecting him to return to our conversation, and eventually he came back after having kept his back turned to me for a while. He abruptly gave me a card and announced that our conversation was over. I protested a bit but I decided to leave after this level of disrespect. I told him (amongst other choice words) that the offer to sit down and do an in-depth interview was still on the table. NO; I didn’t use profanity/LOL.

The media event was called by Powell’s campaign to defend against perpetual charges that he is a serial woman abuser -given his violent history in dealing with women in the past. The media packet included a long list of female supporters who seem to suggest that Powell has changed his ways. And yet, Bill Clinton has had (and still does have) many female supporters, even while anyone can say that he is a female predator. Too often women sleep and snuggle with the enemy. I could only hope that this isn’t the case with Kevin Powell.

Look, I am sure that this young man has grown since the many violent confrontations he has had with both males and females (as recently as four years ago). I suspect that he is even charming and personable. Many females I know find him to be handsome and articulate; but are these factors -if true- enough to make him the next congressman from the 10th district? Kevin Powell comes across as the Paris Hilton of Brooklyn politics: in this regard he is a celebrity; but no one really knows why.

On this my second meeting with the brother, I come away with the feeling that Kevin Powell is complex, haughty and arrogant. He reminds me of Kevin Parker -but much less obnoxious. Maybe they well eventually open a firm called Kevin and Kevin Inc. They elicit the same ambiguous feelings from me. If Powell isn’t careful, I may start treating him the same way I treat Parker: with lots of love/lmao. You see he pissed me off today; and now he knows.

In 1998 and 2000 Ed Towns was challenged by another young upstart (a nice guy too/ Barry Ford). Ford was nowhere close to being this pompous, and he had “an ivy-league degree”; Powell is a college drop out. Powell needs to take some lessons from Barry’s experiences; running for congress demands a more even temper and a less confrontational demeanor. You don’t isolate and alienate people -even those supporting your opponent. You never know when you could use a favor.

About Powell’s media problems with his past proclivities, I offer this story (and maybe even a piece of advice). Long ago in the country of Argentina, and in the time of Eva Peron (Evita), there came a day when she was very very depressed. So she sat sad and forlorn in her office when an old seaman came. He asked her why she was like this. She replied that after all these long years of not being on the stage (a dancer amongst other things), that some of her enemies still call her a “whore”. To this the old sailor replied: “it is what it is; the past is the past”. He further went on to say that he was over 80 years old, and that he spent most of his life at sea. He further stated that he had retired for almost 30 years; and after all that time people still call him: “El Capitan” (the captain).

Stay tuned-in folks.



Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Fri, 07/25/2008 - 7:48pm.

Watch out Rock! Powell has been known to sucker punch reporters!

 

Please watch your kneecaps too.  I hear Powell may feel they are a delicacy.lol


Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Fri, 07/25/2008 - 11:39pm.
People are still scrimmaging through the pj's for votes?
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Sat, 07/26/2008 - 10:21am.

 

1. Dave Chapelle no-show

2. $19,000 cash on hand as of June 30 vs. $382,000 for incumbent

3. Struts around with goonish bodyguard despite reputation for goonish behavior

4. Holds insane press conference to attack newspaper column while disputing nothing in it

5. Pisses Rock off 

 


Submitted by Mary Alice (not verified) on Sat, 07/26/2008 - 10:48am.

         I went to Kevin Powell's Media/Public Event at Junior's Restaurant yesterday.

 

            My observation of the interaction between Kevin and Rock:

 

            Rock came in late, after Kevin's formal presentation. He got some of the printed materials, but most of them were gone before Kevin spoke.

 

            After the Q and A, Rock walked over to Kevin, put out his hand and introduced himself.

Kevin said hello sir. Rock said call me Rock. Kevin said I call everybody sir.

           

            They sat down. Kevin asked in a low, calm voice, aren't you with the Towns campaign?

Rock said, I've known Towns for 100 years. I talk with him, consult for his campaign. Rock also said, I'm supposedly the highest profile black political blogger around, on Room 8. I would like to interview you in that capacity, not as a consultant for Towns.

 

            This was  interesting to see, so much so that I sat down with them.

 

            Rock asked for a personal ½ hour interview with Kevin, anytime, any place. Kevin gave Rock his card, and told Rock to contact him so that they could set something up. Rock demanded to know time and place right then and there. Meanwhile, channel 7, and a few community group reps, and other individuals were waiting to speak with Kevin.

 

            Then Rock said, I worked with (some) Fort Greene community group in 1998 and 1994, where were you, Kevin?

 

            Kevin said, this is 2008, with a smile.

 

            Rock asked, why are you so aggressive? Kevin said, who is aggressive? I just answered your question.

 

            They both stood up. Rock kept demanding an appointment. At this point, I physically stood between the 2 of them.

 

            I have to say,  Kevin asked several times for Rock to clarify his relationship with the Towns campaign. At no point did Rock admit he recently received coinage from the Towns campaign.

 

            It made me wonder if I was witnessing Mayhill Fowler incarnate.

 

            Are bloggers expected to make complete disclosure, including financial payments from opposition campaigns when requesting interviews? Just asking.


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Submitted by Rock Hackshaw on Sat, 07/26/2008 - 11:43am.
Mary Alice: I have announced over and over the fact that I am now on the campaign. I never hid it. AGAIN: I AM PLAYING A MINOR ROLE. No one forced me to dsiclose it publicly. Just as I have in the past. I never got heat for being a paid consultant to Charles Barron,Ken Evans or C. Virginia Feilds; so why now as I am dealing with Towns? Kevin Powell knew who I was as soon as I introduced myself. He said:"but I hear you are with the Towns campaign". I answered: "yes,but I am here as a blogger". From there on Kevin started out defensively. He attacked unions which take monies from pols and journalists who take money from pols, etc. He was antagonistic from jumpstreet. I told him that he didn't have to sit down with me now, but hopefully in the future I would like us to. I still would. I am sure you saw when he abruptly got up and left me to go speak with the whites from that peace group. I had patiently waited my turn to talk to him. I didn't interrupt the other white media people who had interviewed him ahead of me. The event was to give media folks access to the candidate. I fell that he owes me an apology. I do.

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Submitted by Gatemouth on Sat, 07/26/2008 - 12:39pm.

Sorry Rock, but I'm with Powell on this one. Though I think you've accurately captured aspects of his narcisism, egotism, thugishnesss and general bizzarritude, I think he had the perfect right to diss you.

You are a paid consultant to Powell's opponent. While it may well behoove Powell to be polite to you, his time is imporatant to him, and talking to some white peacefreaks, or anyone else of any color who may somehow benefit his campaign instead of you is a perfectly reasonable cost benefit anlysis which he is entitled, and, in fact, compelled, to make.    

And this idea that you, or any other blogger, can compartmentalize is preposterous. The best we can do is disclose (which, to your credit, you have--Bouldin also deserves credit for this). Your opinion on Powell may indeed be valid (I think it is) regardless of your income stream, and you may be (and in fact are) capable of thoughtful and semi-detaced analysis, but campaigns have the right to regard you as a paid partisan in those instances when you've become one and to treat you accordingly.

And while this, and some of you other writings about Powell rise above questions of renumeration, your Hillary piece today reeked of being a pure campaign commerical for Towns; not that there's anything wrong with that, but publishing such stuff under your name tarnishes the brand.

Might I suggest the work you do as pure promotion (whether paid or pro bono) be differerentiated from the stuff you do for love. Pick a nom de blogue for the stuff which is product rather than art, and keep the brand name pure. The commercilas may then attract less readership, but you know what they say--he who robs my purse takes trash, etc.

You would be surprised how many bloggers use such a technique.   LOL!



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Submitted by Rock Hackshaw on Sat, 07/26/2008 - 1:08pm.
Gatemouth: I could understand your logic but this was a media event in a public place open to the public. Because I support Towns does that mean I can't ask him questions? Does that mean he can be discourteous? Even in my piece today I mentioned him (without going negative). I didn't have to. I could have left him out or even take some lil pot shot at him, but I didn't. It is a public event that even he should show up at. He could have said to me, that he will set a day, time and place for an interview; even if he was going to bullshit me in the end.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Sat, 07/26/2008 - 2:59pm.
powell is wack
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Sat, 07/26/2008 - 4:26pm.
To 2:59 - I agree that Powell is wack and he's also a serial dead-beat dad...Someone needs to ask him how far behind he is on his child support payments and how many kids he's supposed to be paying for...And just how many women have been thrown beatings by Powell..?
Submitted by Political Student (not verified) on Sat, 07/26/2008 - 11:32pm.

Prof. Rock,

I found Mary Alice's commentary to quite enlightening and very eye-opening. As well as a recent article in the Our Time Press. David Greaves has needed a new voice like her's for quite some time.

Ultimately, your article provokes thought about an issue that many j-school instructors are debating today. What are the ethical guidelines surrounding blogging journalism? Is this relatively new media frontier bound to long-standing journalism tenets? And if not, how reliable and serious should it be taken?

I remember when Ben helmed the Daily News blog and ran an gossip item which stated a staffer of Marty Markowitz had attended a meeting for the purposes of raising funds for Bill deBlasio's run for the 13CD. Without any confirmation, he ran the item which turned out to be purely fictious. But the damage had been done to that staffer's career. There lie the inherent danger of blogging as journalism.

Which highlights the importance of Mary ALice's reporting. WIthout that 3rd party perspective, we would have had to rely on your version of events.

Ultimately, despite your very honest admissions of working for Towns, despite how little money you are taking or not, or how much of a role in his campaign you have- you could not have expected to be taken as a serious journalist at a clearly defined media event. In fact, one could argue that you went there clearly to make news rather than report it.

Your very admissions disqualify you from being taken serious as an objective journalist. Ideally, you can be best described as a popular blogger nee political consultant. At worst, you could be described as an egotistical political gossip-monger who uses his platforms to laud his friends and castigate his enemies.

For example, you clearly castigate Kevin Parker and Kevin Powell (and many of your arguments are solid), you more times than not flippantly give a pass to Kendall Stewart and Ed Towns. And you make no apologies for it by establishing your bias for them.

On the other hand, your finest moments have been when you deliver an clear analysis on presidential politics or ruminate about possible gubernatorial or mayoral runs.  Or when you report that a candidate and her young daughter have been physically threatened during the throes of a campaign.

You can't question the credibilty of Powell's campaign and ignore Town's inability to effect change in his community, much less his tepid voting record, and call yourself a jounalist. You can't question Parker's temperament and inability to deliver constituent services to Central Brooklyn and ignore Doc's complicity in Asquith's scandal.

You are not a journalist or even close. Therefore, you really had no standing at today's media event.

Lastly, the title of this opinion piece and your penchant for announcing your laurels as a way of legitimizing your standing makes it clear you've started to drink your own kool-aid.

 We've had this discussion before. Trailblazer you are. But you are still a Carib-American blogger who speaks to a predominately white, liberal, gay audience. Until you start your own blog that caters to the Black constituency of Brooklyn (and I could easily see one being started if you and Carib News put your heads together), then ultimately what you've become and are is a pain in the butt for Black politicians and a god-send for white bloggers who otherwise would have no entry into the world of Black politics.

Sadly, it is becoming clear that you enjoy your current role. When you're not demanding that people give you credit for your analysis or your attacking your enemies- real or imagined -you actually are a good read sometime. But then again, so was my new copy of Ultimate Avengers.

Neither, I rely on for the reporting of factual news or would I refer to as media.


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Submitted by Rock Hackshaw on Sun, 07/27/2008 - 1:31am.
From time to time you come up with your own spin, analysis and crtitque; fine. You are entitled to such. What is a bit confusing to me however is your continued devotion to reading my columns after all these years, given your stated predispositions: somethings contradict. For example: if in your estimation I am not a serious journalist, then why bother reading my stuff so loyally year after year? This is why I often challenge my critics to either respond intellectually, factfully and truthfully, or do their own blogging if they do indeed have something relevant to say. I am nearly always dissappointed because no one seems to take me up on this. I find that so fucking cowardly it aint funny; plus the anonymous attacks of course. It is always so easy to attack people behind sheets and masks. After all, that's what bandits do; and who is more cowardly than they are. I have dared you many times in the past to start your own blog; somehow you seem incapable. However you are articulate enough when it is time to hit at me then run and hide; then suddenly reappear to hit again, then run and hide again; sometimes for weeks or months at a time, or apart. NICE. Some man you are. Hopefully one day you will realize that people read me (which many of you seem to resent) because I bring with my columns a high level of credibility given my lifetime of political involvement, plus my academic credentials. Also because the things I say are relevant and significant to their political involvement (and might even be enjoyable and entertaining). Your comments are riddled with contradictions: go read it again. If I were you I wouldn't read something I don't appreciate (you must have better things to do with your time). Anyway, good luck in whatever endeavours you undertake.

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Submitted by Gatemouth on Sun, 07/27/2008 - 8:35am.

Rock is clearly not qualified to cover this campaign, as a JOURNALIST. Disclosure does not cleanse a journalist's bias, at least not when one is on the tit.

But anyone who read Rock knows he is not operating as a journalist; he is operating as a COMMENTATOR.

Commentators also have certain obligations, disclosure bring the foremost. They cannot, or should not, pretend to the journalistic convention of neutrality. They are interesting not such much in spite of their biasses, but precisely because of those biasses.

Now, a commentator who's taken money and failed to disclose it is a problem. But a commentator who has taken money and disclosed it is a different matter. Certainly, he forfeits a few of his privledges, but once his discposure is on the table an emptor can surely choose on his own whether or not to caveat. No one in that context can blame Powell for his demurral. But really, in the matter of Parker, does it really make any difference whether Rock's ever taken a cent from Dr. Kendall or not? I mean, doesn't Parker have a right to demur from Rock as well, regardless of whether or nor Rock has any monetary bias?

In the end, money might not always be that important. No amount of money is going to change Rock's opinion of Kevin Parker. But money is a bright line.

But even there, there are limits. For weeks, Michael Bouldin has screamed bloody murder that I should reveal my "Conflict of Interest" concerning Marty Connor and Shelly Silver. And I actually came clean on Daily Gotham, for what it was worth.

The basis of my alleged "Pro-Silver" "conflict" (apparently manifiested by my comparison of the Bullfrog to a benign tumor, rather than a malignant one) would seem to be that I once worked for an elected offical whose turf overlapped Silver's. In my experinece, this is a relationship as likely to lead to conflects as to conflicts of interest. This was surely true in my case. During that time, I developed such a strong relationship with Silver's office that I am now on a list Judy Rapfogel keeps in her back pocket of people never to be hired by the Assembly Democrats. 

The basis of my Connor "conflict" is that I once worked for  Connor. This puts me in the same category as Kardon "KAS" Stolzman, who in 2006, managed Ken Diamondstone's campaign against Connor. Scott McClellan worked for Dubya and no one seems to think it disqualifies him from commenting. In fact, it is the one and only reason we have for listening to him at all.  

Anyway, the last year I was employed by Connor was 2002. This was back in the era when Steve Harrison was sending checks to the Conservative Party, so one would think Bouldin would deem it ancient history. As far as I know, the last time any member of my family, even broadly defined, drew a check from Connor or his campaign committee was in 2004. If it has happened since, I am not aware of it. One will notice that in the  2006 election cycle, Gatemouth made only rare references to Connor. Gary Tilzer, blogging anonymously, actually used the fact that such utterances were rare as another example of my perdfidy. In his estimation, I was not to be trusted because I refused to comment about my friends. But, it's been a long time since Marty Connor's put money in my purse. Surely, the statute of limitations in politics, which is defined by "What have you done for me, lately", has long passed. 

But surely, anyone comming to places like Room 8 looking for objectivity deserves whatever they get.

Really though, if Rock and I hadn't earned our battle scars in the trenches, would there be any reason to read us at all?



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Submitted by Rock Hackshaw on Sun, 07/27/2008 - 9:25am.
Geeze Gatemouth, someone who writes succinctly actually hijacked your typewriter again. And I am so glad they did/lol. "Really though, if Rock and I hadn't earned our battle scars in the trenches, would there be any reason to read us at all": well, that's a great question Gate. I still think though that there are those who aren't battle-scarred, who do offer profound insights, give up pertinent political info and do wonderful things for this new political art-form (the blogs). Take our cousin at the Daily Gotham for example; I think Michael Bouldin (isn't he French?) spent the decade of the eighties sipping cappuchinos on sidewalk cafes in Paris; reading La Rochefacauld, Camus and Jean Paul Satre; but he writes well, and he was on the correct side of the Chris Owens race in 2006. But after I see him march (with Liza and Mole) for Sean Bell only then will I put one political scar on their touches/lol. Seriously though this issue is something we all should write about; who the hell are these pirahnas to rip at our torso, becaus we may choose to help out some candidate in a primary or general? does that disqualify us from political commentary? Are we now less relevant after years of these same folks singing our praises here on these said blogs? Oh how fickle this love shit is? damn!!!!!

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Submitted by Gatemouth on Sun, 07/27/2008 - 10:33am.

...is German on his mom's side, army brat on his dad's, and I think during the 80's he was probably engaged mostly in schoolboy pursuits, including pursuing schoolboys. He is a bit younger than we are. Then again, so is Obama.

But agree with Bouldin's politcs or not (and I'd say I do about 50/50 on internal Democrats stuff, and better than 80/20 otherwise), in the last few years, he has spent more than his share of time in the trenches. Like us, he may be inflicted with what Gatemouth calls "Trench-Mouth"--the insufferable arrogance of the political veteran concerning civillians. And like us, he's earned whatever lousy (pun intended--see Orwell's "Homage to Catalona") credentials being in the trenches has conveyed him. 

Oh, and my trenchant observation you just chose to quote as an example of my insight was, like much of my better stuff, mostly lifted from Michael Kinsley.



Submitted by Political Student (For Today) (not verified) on Sun, 07/27/2008 - 2:27pm.

You fail to grasp the madness of all of this, dear Prof.

You attack the messenger but fail to answer the questions and then rely on your Denver roomie to defend you. And if all else fails, you resort to profanity and machismo.

Ironically, you even failed to grasp my sexuality. Typical of Caribbean machismo. Far be it for you to even consider a woman being on your playing field.

I read because I can. I respond anonymously because I can. Those are the rules which you accept when you post. Despite your protestations about anonymity, you never walk away.  You've often called Political Student a "kid" but you've never considered that she could be older than you. Remember, we're all learning every day until the day we perish.

Actually, Dear Prof., given your long record of posting, anyone can cull through your commentarys and many feuds and adopt the moniker of your many anonymous critics. How would you know if I were even the original "Political Student" unless you were a linguist? That is the pure madness of all of this. I can be the great FUSTB or the silly Keith Dawson. You have more archenemies and critics than the  Dark Knight himself.

As long as I wear the one ring to rule them all, I can be whomever I choose to be and you will be still be silly Golem searching for the voice in the dark. Therein lies the true power of the blogs- it frees the dark in all us and allows us to truly be who we want in glorious anonymity. Silly man, you still havent realized your the only one who chooses to attend a masquerade ball with no mask. 

Embrace it, sweetie. LOL


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Submitted by Gatemouth on Sun, 07/27/2008 - 2:37pm.
"Political Student" has generally been the nom de blogue of one particular blogger, who is both black and male. In fact, Rock and I both met him together at an event at "Omar's Cafe". If we assumed you were a male, it is not without reason.

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Submitted by Rock Hackshaw on Sun, 07/27/2008 - 3:15pm.
It is not a female. There are consistent literary figues that he quotes; plus I know his writng style. And I still think he should have his own blog and say whatever he wants. His hit and run guerilla tactics are annoying that's all. But then I am easily annoyed as I get older. LMAO.

Submitted by Gracchus_Green (not verified) on Sun, 07/27/2008 - 6:18pm.
6.  Receives support from Green Party McKinney/Clemente ticket, which Powell, naturally, can't quite requite. 
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Mon, 07/28/2008 - 12:55pm.

It's interesting no one has been talking about the fact that Kevin Powell is paying a firm that many prominent national bloggers work with - Progressive Strategies.

How come Matt Stoller never discloses the real reason for his crush on Powell?

 


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