The Incredible Shrinking Giuliani

Rudy Giuliani's truly pathetic showing in the Michigan Republican Primary - he finished 6th with 2.8%, over 30,000 votes behind Ron Paul has been largely ignored by the pundits who are instead talking about Romney's win and what happens next.

In fact some of the pundits are saying the results help Rudy.

But Michigan continues a pattern of Rudy's support dropping in every state from sky high poll numbers to a low number of actual votes.

Let's look back at some facts that Rudy's campaign doesn't want anyone to remember.

At the beginning of 2007, Rudy led every poll in Iowa. According to Real Clear Politics, there were 4 polls made public between January 16 and February 18 and Rudy led them all, with 29% in the Feb. 18 poll. As recently as the November Iowa State University poll, he was 3rd with 16% of the vote. But when the Iowa Republicans actually voted, Rudy finished 6th with 3.5%!

In New Hampshire, Rudy was in first in a July American Research Group poll with 27% to Romney 26%, with John McCain in 4th with 10%. As late as November 29, Rudy was 2nd with 22% in another ARG poll. But when the New Hampshire votes were cast, Rudy was 4th with 8.5%!

Now, Michigan, where Rudy led in October and early November in 3 polls with a high in the November poll by the Detroit News of 28%, he finished with, I repeat, 2.8%!

Later this week, we have South Carolina & Nevada, two other states that polls showed Rudy leading in 2007 but where now he will be lucky to finish in the top 5.

And then there is Florida, the state that Rudy has always led, until this week, when it happened again, he dropped to 2nd and his numbers are shrinking, shrinking ...



Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Wed, 01/16/2008 - 12:28pm.

1) Rudy shot too high. He should have run for governor or Senator.

2) Primary voters remember his previous social liberalism, support for gun control, etc.

3) All the candidates are on the ballot in the NY primary. I don't see much evidence of a campaign here. If Giuliani manages to win NY, it might not be a by a big margin.


Submitted by Joe Crandall (not verified) on Wed, 01/16/2008 - 5:50pm.
For those of you who have an agenda involving a candidate other than Rudy, well, it’s your right to post what you want. I AM getting a little tired, however, of reading the same tired anti-Giuliani talking points over and over again.

So, let’s address them one by one, shall we?

Anti-Guiliani talking point #1: Rudy left NYC with a deficit.

“Mayor Giuliani Inherited $2.3 Billion Budget Deficit And Turned It Into Multi-Billion Dollar Surplus.”(Steven Lee Myers,“A Deficit Revisited,” The New York Times, 7/31/94.)

Anti-Giuliani talking point #2: Bernie Kerik might be a bad guy.

One of the best qualities I think any person can have is loyalty. The flip side of loyalty is that sometimes, it can really bite you in the behind.‘nuff said.

Anti-Giuliani talking point #3: Crime was going down throughout the U.S., so it’s not like Rudy really accomplished anything.

NYC’s crime reduction was THREE TO SIX TIMES THE NATIONAL AVERAGE!

Anti-Giuliani talking point #4: Rudy’s been married three times.

Who cares? Let me ask that again - WHO CARES? What's this election for, boy scout troop leader, or Commander-in-Chief?

Anti-Giuliani talking point #5: Giuliani is a "fascist."

Can anyone say "Anti-Italian-American slur"?

And #6: "all he ever talks about is 9/11."

Shame on anyone who says "all" Rudy ever talks about is 9/11 - that's making light of an event that killed over 3,000 Americans on American soil. Rudy's performance that day is, by itself, enough to give him my vote. AND he spends most of his time talking about how he plans to overhaul "business as usual" in DC, the same way he did it in Democratic NYC.

All I need to know about Rudy is this: in 1995, NYC hosted a big event at Lincoln Center for various foreign dignitaries. Guess who crashed the party? Yasser Arafat. Rudy’s response? HE THREW THE TERRORIST BASTARD OUT THE DOOR! When the city’s liberal elite cried foul, Giuliani replied, "I would not invite Yasser Arafat to anything, anywhere, anytime, anyplace. I don’t forget."

Spread the word - Rudy will win Florida, and will win most of the states on Feb. 5th!  BE VOCAL, BE LOCAL – let’s get this guy elected!

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Wed, 01/16/2008 - 8:54pm.
Talk about shrinking....... that's all i get lately.  maybe Bernie can help.
Submitted by Yoda on Thu, 01/17/2008 - 9:38am.
1 - Rudy DID leave NYC with a deficit. A new clip from 1994 has nothing to do with 2002. 2 - Bernie Kerik IS a bad guy. He's a convicted criminal. And he's not the only convicted criminal Rudy had promoted. See Russell Harding, Richard Robets, Lou Carbonetti. 4 - The crime rate in NYC has continued to go down after Rudy left. It's been 6 years now.
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Thu, 01/17/2008 - 1:24pm.

To Joe Crandall,

You write that Rudy had Yasir Arafat evicted from a concert at Lincoln Center because he is a terrorist. Okay.

So how do you account for Rudy's warm reception of Gerry Adams of Sinn Fein? I guess some terrorists are more equal than others.


Submitted by Niccolo Machiavelli (not verified) on Thu, 01/17/2008 - 6:52pm.

Anonymous 2:24, you seem to miss the fine point, Arafat was an Arab and Adams is Irish.  Ireland is one of the three I s, Italy, Israel and Ireland, that formed the base of Mr. Giuliani's power.  Of course he treated them differently, so did Peter King and many others.

If Blacks can vote with identity for Obama, and women with identity for Clinton, expect Italians with identity to vote for Rudy.  The more identity politics changes the more it remains the same.

Vote for Giuliani, a small man in search of a balcony!

 


Submitted by Joe Crandall (not verified) on Wed, 01/23/2008 - 10:25am.
Yoda:  how can put this in a way that even YOU can understand?  It's tough, but I'll try - right toward the end of Rudy's term, there was this BIG thing that happened on Sept. 11th - it cost a LOT of money to fix things after it.  This is why there was a deficit when Rudy left office.  Also, Kerik has been INDICTED on charges of corruption.  "Indicted" does not mean "convicted."  Indicted means that he's been formally accused of wrongdoing by a grand jury.  Now let me ask you this question:  who do you support?  My candidate fought the mob and won; turned around the second biggest city in the U.S.; has a long history of cutting taxes; has a long history of getting things done against enormous odds; threw Yasser Arafat's terrorist behind out of Lincoln Center; and was a beacon of hope on the darkest day in American history.  What's so special about YOUR candidate?  Honestly - anyone can make up lies about anybody - but let's hear why it is your so passionate about YOUR choice for president!  (Prediction?  No response - /sound of crickets chirping/)

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